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	<title>Comments on: UFOs in Religious Art? Nope.</title>
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		<title>By: P.B.</title>
		<link>http://michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/2008/05/ufos-in-religious-art-nope/comment-page-1/#comment-33430</link>
		<dc:creator>P.B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2012 03:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi!

This is loosely connected to the main article and is in regards to the April 4, 1561 event:
For those interested, a link to a Wikipedia page with a digital reproduction of the original Flugblatt aus Nürnberg (Leaflet from Nuremberg). The image is too small for me to read, but as far as I can read the very first line it says &quot;Anno M.D.LXI Am den XIIII. tag Aprillis zu morgen...&quot;, which translates to &quot;In the year of 1561 on the 14th day of April in the morning...&quot;.

Hopefully the link will work properly:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Himmelserscheinung_%C3%BCber_N%C3%BCrnberg_vom_14._April_1561.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!</p>
<p>This is loosely connected to the main article and is in regards to the April 4, 1561 event:<br />
For those interested, a link to a Wikipedia page with a digital reproduction of the original Flugblatt aus Nürnberg (Leaflet from Nuremberg). The image is too small for me to read, but as far as I can read the very first line it says &#8220;Anno M.D.LXI Am den XIIII. tag Aprillis zu morgen&#8230;&#8221;, which translates to &#8220;In the year of 1561 on the 14th day of April in the morning&#8230;&#8221;.</p>
<p>Hopefully the link will work properly:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Himmelserscheinung_%C3%BCber_N%C3%BCrnberg_vom_14._April_1561.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Himmelserscheinung_%C3%BCber_N%C3%BCrnberg_vom_14._April_1561.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: MSH</title>
		<link>http://michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/2008/05/ufos-in-religious-art-nope/comment-page-1/#comment-32917</link>
		<dc:creator>MSH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 18:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you bet; it&#039;s worth reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you bet; it&#8217;s worth reading.</p>
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		<title>By: null</title>
		<link>http://michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/2008/05/ufos-in-religious-art-nope/comment-page-1/#comment-32906</link>
		<dc:creator>null</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 10:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Anon

Well it is weird,
Indeed the link you shown appares as one of the first result, but because of a [4] and another date (april 1535) , the part in bold for the lin description in google.
But no reference to the date. there is simply a small quote on wiki on the events of that year
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1561

plus it is not artwork, but a journalistic etching, like a journalist article.

set the search to &quot;images&quot; in google to find the pic.

@MHS

You are right, wiki is not perfect, but is a good start in most of the cases.
and thanks again for th Vallee &amp; Aubeck book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Anon</p>
<p>Well it is weird,<br />
Indeed the link you shown appares as one of the first result, but because of a [4] and another date (april 1535) , the part in bold for the lin description in google.<br />
But no reference to the date. there is simply a small quote on wiki on the events of that year<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1561" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1561</a></p>
<p>plus it is not artwork, but a journalistic etching, like a journalist article.</p>
<p>set the search to &#8220;images&#8221; in google to find the pic.</p>
<p>@MHS</p>
<p>You are right, wiki is not perfect, but is a good start in most of the cases.<br />
and thanks again for th Vallee &amp; Aubeck book.</p>
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		<title>By: MSH</title>
		<link>http://michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/2008/05/ufos-in-religious-art-nope/comment-page-1/#comment-32854</link>
		<dc:creator>MSH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 05:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know. I try to avoid Wikipedia for research.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know. I try to avoid Wikipedia for research.</p>
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		<title>By: MSH</title>
		<link>http://michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/2008/05/ufos-in-religious-art-nope/comment-page-1/#comment-32851</link>
		<dc:creator>MSH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 05:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d have to look these up for bibliography, but I&#039;d recommend getting Vallee and Aubeck&#039;s book. It&#039;s so-so when it comes to bibliography, but it&#039;s very handy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d have to look these up for bibliography, but I&#8217;d recommend getting Vallee and Aubeck&#8217;s book. It&#8217;s so-so when it comes to bibliography, but it&#8217;s very handy.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/2008/05/ufos-in-religious-art-nope/comment-page-1/#comment-32848</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@null

I did what you requested and searched for &quot;april 4th 1561&quot; in google. The first link is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_dog

Doesnt wiki explain the occurances in the artwork your referring to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@null</p>
<p>I did what you requested and searched for &#8220;april 4th 1561&#8243; in google. The first link is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_dog" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_dog</a></p>
<p>Doesnt wiki explain the occurances in the artwork your referring to?</p>
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		<title>By: null</title>
		<link>http://michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/2008/05/ufos-in-religious-art-nope/comment-page-1/#comment-32843</link>
		<dc:creator>null</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you for the reference.

do yo know any other book refering to this event or the event of the same kind (not art)?
Basel 1566, Hamburg nov 4th 1697, Angelo de Tummulillis 1465, England 18th august 1783?...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you for the reference.</p>
<p>do yo know any other book refering to this event or the event of the same kind (not art)?<br />
Basel 1566, Hamburg nov 4th 1697, Angelo de Tummulillis 1465, England 18th august 1783?&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MSH</title>
		<link>http://michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/2008/05/ufos-in-religious-art-nope/comment-page-1/#comment-32841</link>
		<dc:creator>MSH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based on the work of Vallee and Aubeck (Wonders in the Sky) I would expect that those who reported this scene (like reports of &quot;flying shields&quot; for example) were seeing atmospheric or meteorological phenomena (with variegated colors) and using the best language they could to describe it. Vallee and Aubeck have this one in their book (#194) as &quot;unidentified&quot; (no secure way to know what was seen).  For my review of Aubeck and Vallee&#039;s book, see:

http://michaelsheiser.com/UFOReligions/2011/04/appreciative-but-not-amazed-by-wonders-in-the-sky/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on the work of Vallee and Aubeck (Wonders in the Sky) I would expect that those who reported this scene (like reports of &#8220;flying shields&#8221; for example) were seeing atmospheric or meteorological phenomena (with variegated colors) and using the best language they could to describe it. Vallee and Aubeck have this one in their book (#194) as &#8220;unidentified&#8221; (no secure way to know what was seen).  For my review of Aubeck and Vallee&#8217;s book, see:</p>
<p><a href="http://michaelsheiser.com/UFOReligions/2011/04/appreciative-but-not-amazed-by-wonders-in-the-sky/" rel="nofollow">http://michaelsheiser.com/UFOReligions/2011/04/appreciative-but-not-amazed-by-wonders-in-the-sky/</a></p>
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		<title>By: null</title>
		<link>http://michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/2008/05/ufos-in-religious-art-nope/comment-page-1/#comment-32838</link>
		<dc:creator>null</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I read with great interest Diego Cuohgi&#039;s blog on art and ufos. It was very interesting, and indeed it broke down a lot of misconceptions i had on the subject.
However there is one picture that still defies my  understanding, this picture is not religious, but rather journalistic, it is a ethching representing an event, a small text seems to be linked to it.

you will easily find a link to the etching by typing &quot;april 4th 1561&quot; in google

Do you have an opinion on it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I read with great interest Diego Cuohgi&#8217;s blog on art and ufos. It was very interesting, and indeed it broke down a lot of misconceptions i had on the subject.<br />
However there is one picture that still defies my  understanding, this picture is not religious, but rather journalistic, it is a ethching representing an event, a small text seems to be linked to it.</p>
<p>you will easily find a link to the etching by typing &#8220;april 4th 1561&#8243; in google</p>
<p>Do you have an opinion on it?</p>
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		<title>By: MSH</title>
		<link>http://michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/2008/05/ufos-in-religious-art-nope/comment-page-1/#comment-32798</link>
		<dc:creator>MSH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 01:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no, not really. See the Nephilim link at www.sitchiniswrong.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no, not really. See the Nephilim link at <a href="http://www.sitchiniswrong.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.sitchiniswrong.com</a>.</p>
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