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	<title>Comments on: Is Zecharia Sitchin Anti-Semitic?</title>
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		<title>By: jayzee</title>
		<link>http://michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/2008/12/is-zecharia-sitchin-anti-semitic/comment-page-1/#comment-32760</link>
		<dc:creator>jayzee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 10:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Contrived.....not so sure about that :-)   But I will check out the his site. Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Contrived&#8230;..not so sure about that <img src='http://michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />    But I will check out the his site. Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: MSH</title>
		<link>http://michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/2008/12/is-zecharia-sitchin-anti-semitic/comment-page-1/#comment-32756</link>
		<dc:creator>MSH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 00:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>see the Sitchin site; I&#039;m not going to reproduce that site in my comments field.  I&#039;m saying all the space travel stuff is contrived.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>see the Sitchin site; I&#8217;m not going to reproduce that site in my comments field.  I&#8217;m saying all the space travel stuff is contrived.</p>
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		<title>By: jayzee</title>
		<link>http://michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/2008/12/is-zecharia-sitchin-anti-semitic/comment-page-1/#comment-32752</link>
		<dc:creator>jayzee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So are you saying that the sumerian text do not talk about these beings traveling through space in vehicles? Don&#039;t the sumerian texts talk about the creation of humans by these beings as a slave race to mine gold? Don&#039;t they mention Eden and adam etc.? And also, did they call them GODS (meaning in the way that we understand what God means, almighty supernatural omnipresent being etc)? For instance I read that the ancient egyptians called their gods &quot;the ones who watch&quot; or &quot;the watchers&quot;? We assume that they were worshipping GODS in our sense. Also if these beings were here a long time ago you&#039;d expect the stories about them to change over time and to develop into different stories. It would explain the fact that almost every civilisation has a believe in a higher or more powerful being that rules their every day life. If religions developed to explain things people didn&#039;t understand then not all civilisation would have come up with similar practices, for instance:making offerings to apeace the &quot;gods&quot;. Anyway I read a bit more on the link you provided..... For me ET&#039;s are a theory. Not a faith or conviction. If tomorrow by some way we find out that ETs don&#039;t exist, life still goes on as normal. Faith in God on the other hand cannot be treated that way, because that&#039;s supposed to be the one and only truth. Are there any other people that have translated the sumerian tablets and have come to a complete different opinion than sitchin? Just out of interest, so I can see it from a different angle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So are you saying that the sumerian text do not talk about these beings traveling through space in vehicles? Don&#8217;t the sumerian texts talk about the creation of humans by these beings as a slave race to mine gold? Don&#8217;t they mention Eden and adam etc.? And also, did they call them GODS (meaning in the way that we understand what God means, almighty supernatural omnipresent being etc)? For instance I read that the ancient egyptians called their gods &#8220;the ones who watch&#8221; or &#8220;the watchers&#8221;? We assume that they were worshipping GODS in our sense. Also if these beings were here a long time ago you&#8217;d expect the stories about them to change over time and to develop into different stories. It would explain the fact that almost every civilisation has a believe in a higher or more powerful being that rules their every day life. If religions developed to explain things people didn&#8217;t understand then not all civilisation would have come up with similar practices, for instance:making offerings to apeace the &#8220;gods&#8221;. Anyway I read a bit more on the link you provided&#8230;.. For me ET&#8217;s are a theory. Not a faith or conviction. If tomorrow by some way we find out that ETs don&#8217;t exist, life still goes on as normal. Faith in God on the other hand cannot be treated that way, because that&#8217;s supposed to be the one and only truth. Are there any other people that have translated the sumerian tablets and have come to a complete different opinion than sitchin? Just out of interest, so I can see it from a different angle.</p>
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		<title>By: Lost Angel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lost Angel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ John your speech sound a little zealot on the side, may be your beliefs with human kindness went down with the Temple.. Hitler lost because the artificial reality he wished to construct was opposed to good faith.. his dynamics were exclusions instead of inclusions; he fell and burned
without having understood anything..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ John your speech sound a little zealot on the side, may be your beliefs with human kindness went down with the Temple.. Hitler lost because the artificial reality he wished to construct was opposed to good faith.. his dynamics were exclusions instead of inclusions; he fell and burned<br />
without having understood anything..</p>
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		<title>By: MSH</title>
		<link>http://michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/2008/12/is-zecharia-sitchin-anti-semitic/comment-page-1/#comment-32747</link>
		<dc:creator>MSH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 04:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is self-defeating, since the various ancient mythologies you quote in favor of your idea presume the existence of the gods you deny. It implodes. You simply assume that the texts are talking about ETs and not gods, but that fails because there is no evidence in the texts of these ancient cultures that these gods came from other planets (i.e., the text do not describe known planets; and in the case of Sumer, there is no reference to the Anunnaki inhabiting any planet, much less Nibiru). 

The problem is that one can&#039;t talk about ancient mythologies without depending on the texts that record / produce those mythologies.  And when those texts don&#039;t contain certain ideas, we have no basis to claim those ideas correspond to reality (theirs or ours).

On the &quot;probability&quot; of ET life, that is far from a sure bet among scientists, even though you hear that all the time:

http://michaelsheiser.com/UFOReligions/life-probable/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is self-defeating, since the various ancient mythologies you quote in favor of your idea presume the existence of the gods you deny. It implodes. You simply assume that the texts are talking about ETs and not gods, but that fails because there is no evidence in the texts of these ancient cultures that these gods came from other planets (i.e., the text do not describe known planets; and in the case of Sumer, there is no reference to the Anunnaki inhabiting any planet, much less Nibiru). </p>
<p>The problem is that one can&#8217;t talk about ancient mythologies without depending on the texts that record / produce those mythologies.  And when those texts don&#8217;t contain certain ideas, we have no basis to claim those ideas correspond to reality (theirs or ours).</p>
<p>On the &#8220;probability&#8221; of ET life, that is far from a sure bet among scientists, even though you hear that all the time:</p>
<p><a href="http://michaelsheiser.com/UFOReligions/life-probable/" rel="nofollow">http://michaelsheiser.com/UFOReligions/life-probable/</a></p>
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		<title>By: jayzee</title>
		<link>http://michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/2008/12/is-zecharia-sitchin-anti-semitic/comment-page-1/#comment-32742</link>
		<dc:creator>jayzee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 21:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There might not be any proof for alien life, but it still remains more plausible than supernatural &quot;Gods&quot; for which there is no evidence either. There are many planets and galaxies and it would be strange if earth was the only inhabited planet. A lot of ancient alien theories are based on speculation some of them might seem wild but the fact is that a lot of cultures have stories about visits by extraterestial beings. And some of the stuff in sitchins translations of the sumerian texts are verifiable. There have been for instance mines found in south africa which date back over a hundred thousand years if not more. There are zulu legends which say that that these mines were worked by slaves created by the first people. Also the sumerian tablets talk about things in the universe that they had no way of knowing unless they had very developed technology, rivaling today&#039;s. Also in his book the twelfth planet sitchin provides a good and plausible analysis of how much of the mediteranean religions are very alike, with the pantheon of twelve gods, etc. and that the earliest version which we know of was that of the sumerians.  I haven&#039;t really read deeply into your crticisms of sitchin so maybe you have debunked all of these points already , but please let me know if there is anything on your website that does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There might not be any proof for alien life, but it still remains more plausible than supernatural &#8220;Gods&#8221; for which there is no evidence either. There are many planets and galaxies and it would be strange if earth was the only inhabited planet. A lot of ancient alien theories are based on speculation some of them might seem wild but the fact is that a lot of cultures have stories about visits by extraterestial beings. And some of the stuff in sitchins translations of the sumerian texts are verifiable. There have been for instance mines found in south africa which date back over a hundred thousand years if not more. There are zulu legends which say that that these mines were worked by slaves created by the first people. Also the sumerian tablets talk about things in the universe that they had no way of knowing unless they had very developed technology, rivaling today&#8217;s. Also in his book the twelfth planet sitchin provides a good and plausible analysis of how much of the mediteranean religions are very alike, with the pantheon of twelve gods, etc. and that the earliest version which we know of was that of the sumerians.  I haven&#8217;t really read deeply into your crticisms of sitchin so maybe you have debunked all of these points already , but please let me know if there is anything on your website that does.</p>
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		<title>By: MSH</title>
		<link>http://michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/2008/12/is-zecharia-sitchin-anti-semitic/comment-page-1/#comment-32734</link>
		<dc:creator>MSH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 00:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, let me see if I follow. The fact that you don&#039;t like conventional religion makes another theory that doesn&#039;t like them, or opposes them, plausible?  That&#039;s another way of saying &quot;this view makes sense because I like it.&quot; That is hardly clear analysis and the approach offers no data.  For the ancient astronaut theory to even get on the table for discussion one thing is required: proof that intelligent ETs exist. Mathematical guesses (like the silly Drake Equation) are not proof for alien life, nor is anyone&#039;s wish for that to be real. It isn&#039;t reasonable at all to say one&#039;s worldview is coherent when it&#039;s fundamental focus (aliens) is not demonstrably factual.

And in case you&#039;re wondering how this differs from belief in God (traditional theism), see the &quot;Exotheology&quot; archive over on my UFO Religions blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, let me see if I follow. The fact that you don&#8217;t like conventional religion makes another theory that doesn&#8217;t like them, or opposes them, plausible?  That&#8217;s another way of saying &#8220;this view makes sense because I like it.&#8221; That is hardly clear analysis and the approach offers no data.  For the ancient astronaut theory to even get on the table for discussion one thing is required: proof that intelligent ETs exist. Mathematical guesses (like the silly Drake Equation) are not proof for alien life, nor is anyone&#8217;s wish for that to be real. It isn&#8217;t reasonable at all to say one&#8217;s worldview is coherent when it&#8217;s fundamental focus (aliens) is not demonstrably factual.</p>
<p>And in case you&#8217;re wondering how this differs from belief in God (traditional theism), see the &#8220;Exotheology&#8221; archive over on my UFO Religions blog.</p>
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		<title>By: jayzee</title>
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		<dc:creator>jayzee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 22:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ancient astronaut theories make more sense than any religions of with so called &quot; Gods&quot;. It makes sense that the various believes in &quot;Gods&quot; have derived from a contact with more developed beings which we started to (or were made to) worship. I think this must be very difficult for religious people to wrap their heads round this idea because it means that their &quot;Gods&quot; are nothing more than beings from other planets which actually don&#039;t care if you grow a beard, go to church on Sunday or work on the Sabbath :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ancient astronaut theories make more sense than any religions of with so called &#8221; Gods&#8221;. It makes sense that the various believes in &#8220;Gods&#8221; have derived from a contact with more developed beings which we started to (or were made to) worship. I think this must be very difficult for religious people to wrap their heads round this idea because it means that their &#8220;Gods&#8221; are nothing more than beings from other planets which actually don&#8217;t care if you grow a beard, go to church on Sunday or work on the Sabbath <img src='http://michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: MSH</title>
		<link>http://michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/2008/12/is-zecharia-sitchin-anti-semitic/comment-page-1/#comment-17249</link>
		<dc:creator>MSH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2011 03:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nonsense (here we go with the Satan and Eve babble again). This is almost as dumb as the ancient astronaut silliness. You use the Bible to try and refute the Bible, but there&#039;s no data behind your usage argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nonsense (here we go with the Satan and Eve babble again). This is almost as dumb as the ancient astronaut silliness. You use the Bible to try and refute the Bible, but there&#8217;s no data behind your usage argument.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2011 20:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1.  Sumerians, like the Hebrews, were Caucasian.

2.  Lands change many hands.  The land on the North American Continent was not always held by Caucasians.  However, the greatest civilization on North America (USA) was built by Caucasians and will be destroyed as mongrels and non-Caucasians take over the land. 

3.  The Bible is about the Adamic &quot;WHITE/CAUCASIAN/EUROPEAN&quot; Race.  Like the US Constitution, when ever the Bible says men/man/adamite it is ONLY talking about White men/man/adamites.  Todays so-called &quot;Jews&quot; are really mongrel Edomite Pharisees in the Bible, a satanic mongrel sickness that has followed white people around since Eve and the non-Adamite serpent produced the mongrel Cain (the first so-called Jew).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.  Sumerians, like the Hebrews, were Caucasian.</p>
<p>2.  Lands change many hands.  The land on the North American Continent was not always held by Caucasians.  However, the greatest civilization on North America (USA) was built by Caucasians and will be destroyed as mongrels and non-Caucasians take over the land. </p>
<p>3.  The Bible is about the Adamic &#8220;WHITE/CAUCASIAN/EUROPEAN&#8221; Race.  Like the US Constitution, when ever the Bible says men/man/adamite it is ONLY talking about White men/man/adamites.  Todays so-called &#8220;Jews&#8221; are really mongrel Edomite Pharisees in the Bible, a satanic mongrel sickness that has followed white people around since Eve and the non-Adamite serpent produced the mongrel Cain (the first so-called Jew).</p>
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