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	<title>Comments on: Did the Egyptians Need Alien Technology to Build the Pyramids?</title>
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		<title>By: MSH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MSH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 06:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the &quot;space opera&quot; label; wish I had thought of that!

I am familiar with Davidovits&#039; work (I show a video of his method in my Egyptology course). I think it is one of several methods for how the pyramids were / may have been built. But that method cannot account for the red granite blocks (the largest ones) over the king&#039;s chamber.  You need something akin to the technology Houdin has mapped out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the &#8220;space opera&#8221; label; wish I had thought of that!</p>
<p>I am familiar with Davidovits&#8217; work (I show a video of his method in my Egyptology course). I think it is one of several methods for how the pyramids were / may have been built. But that method cannot account for the red granite blocks (the largest ones) over the king&#8217;s chamber.  You need something akin to the technology Houdin has mapped out.</p>
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		<title>By: CaptainLJB</title>
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		<dc:creator>CaptainLJB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2012 18:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting stuff. Interesting stuff.

Just a few comments, in no special order...

1. Sitchin&#039;s trying to sell Books. And that&#039;s Plural. He&#039;s turned ancient myth into space opera. I think I read somewhere where he took the tale of a broken necklace and transformed it into the Asteroid Belt between Mars and Jupiter.

2. Regarding the feller who said it doesn&#039;t matter if 100 of Sitchin&#039;s words were wrong. Uh... Uh... Really? How about just 1 for instance? Like maybe &quot;accidentally&quot; substituting &quot;outhouse&quot; for &quot;Nibiru&quot; or whatever cool residence you&#039;re working with when translating ancient tablets? There is a Difference. A Big Difference, with a Big turnout...

3. The pyramids (and probably most every other ancient multi-ton construct) were made according to Dr. Davidovids through poured concrete. You don&#039;t need to move a ton if you can make a Mold for said block Where you want it to be and then bring along buckets of limestone-based concrete to fill it. 
There is the missing mystery Solved. IMHO it satisfies all credentials without invoking space aliens, anti-gravityr, or related BS. Just do a web search and read about it yourselves. 

4. What&#039;s this world coming to when we have to give credit for all human achievments to Space Aliens, if not freakin&#039; God! I just read a book where lasers, microchips, and other modern technology is being attributed to the Roswell crash! What&#039;s next, Aliens invented the toaster?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting stuff. Interesting stuff.</p>
<p>Just a few comments, in no special order&#8230;</p>
<p>1. Sitchin&#8217;s trying to sell Books. And that&#8217;s Plural. He&#8217;s turned ancient myth into space opera. I think I read somewhere where he took the tale of a broken necklace and transformed it into the Asteroid Belt between Mars and Jupiter.</p>
<p>2. Regarding the feller who said it doesn&#8217;t matter if 100 of Sitchin&#8217;s words were wrong. Uh&#8230; Uh&#8230; Really? How about just 1 for instance? Like maybe &#8220;accidentally&#8221; substituting &#8220;outhouse&#8221; for &#8220;Nibiru&#8221; or whatever cool residence you&#8217;re working with when translating ancient tablets? There is a Difference. A Big Difference, with a Big turnout&#8230;</p>
<p>3. The pyramids (and probably most every other ancient multi-ton construct) were made according to Dr. Davidovids through poured concrete. You don&#8217;t need to move a ton if you can make a Mold for said block Where you want it to be and then bring along buckets of limestone-based concrete to fill it.<br />
There is the missing mystery Solved. IMHO it satisfies all credentials without invoking space aliens, anti-gravityr, or related BS. Just do a web search and read about it yourselves. </p>
<p>4. What&#8217;s this world coming to when we have to give credit for all human achievments to Space Aliens, if not freakin&#8217; God! I just read a book where lasers, microchips, and other modern technology is being attributed to the Roswell crash! What&#8217;s next, Aliens invented the toaster?</p>
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		<title>By: MSH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MSH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 00:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because anything that is considered true should be data-driven.

Ancient structures under the ocean (depends on whether you are talking about real ones) are there because (a) people built them, and (b) cataclysmic events occur on earth that cause sea tables and levels to change. Where&#039;s the shock in that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because anything that is considered true should be data-driven.</p>
<p>Ancient structures under the ocean (depends on whether you are talking about real ones) are there because (a) people built them, and (b) cataclysmic events occur on earth that cause sea tables and levels to change. Where&#8217;s the shock in that?</p>
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		<title>By: RPea</title>
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		<dc:creator>RPea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 23:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do I feel like anything anyone says in a reply on this page gets answered with &quot;Where&#039;s your proof?&quot;

Explain to me how ancient structures exist UNDER THE OCEAN? Do I need to give you proof and facts that these sites exist? Or can you look for yourself and find the articles and documentaries about them that are on the internet? Do your own homework. These civilizations existed tens of thousands of years ago, during times when our human ancestors were said to have been picking berries and hunting game. So how do great cities get buried by water on lands that didn&#039;t touch the air since before the end of the last ice age? We&#039;re talking over 10,000 years ago. Even John Anthony West has peer reviewed material (along with Robert Schoch) that show water from rains on the Sphinx when rain hasn&#039;t been in that region for how long now? And West even goes so far as to say 36,000 years ago based on stellar alignments and geological history.

I feel like &#039;peer review&#039; means someone else who thinks like you.

I&#039;ll expect your modest reply saying &quot;I see no evidence refuting my refutes&quot; in a day or two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do I feel like anything anyone says in a reply on this page gets answered with &#8220;Where&#8217;s your proof?&#8221;</p>
<p>Explain to me how ancient structures exist UNDER THE OCEAN? Do I need to give you proof and facts that these sites exist? Or can you look for yourself and find the articles and documentaries about them that are on the internet? Do your own homework. These civilizations existed tens of thousands of years ago, during times when our human ancestors were said to have been picking berries and hunting game. So how do great cities get buried by water on lands that didn&#8217;t touch the air since before the end of the last ice age? We&#8217;re talking over 10,000 years ago. Even John Anthony West has peer reviewed material (along with Robert Schoch) that show water from rains on the Sphinx when rain hasn&#8217;t been in that region for how long now? And West even goes so far as to say 36,000 years ago based on stellar alignments and geological history.</p>
<p>I feel like &#8216;peer review&#8217; means someone else who thinks like you.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll expect your modest reply saying &#8220;I see no evidence refuting my refutes&#8221; in a day or two.</p>
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		<title>By: MSH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MSH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 06:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure. It&#039;s much easier to believe that aliens helped, even though science has never produced evidence aliens existed (why not fairies? or little elves when they aren&#039;t making shoes?).  That&#039;s much more reasonable than applied physics that could be scaled up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure. It&#8217;s much easier to believe that aliens helped, even though science has never produced evidence aliens existed (why not fairies? or little elves when they aren&#8217;t making shoes?).  That&#8217;s much more reasonable than applied physics that could be scaled up.</p>
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		<title>By: g</title>
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		<dc:creator>g</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2012 09:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and dont forget cutting the stones, perfectly, like laser precision, in many places around the globe...i think all rock lifting, cutting, building back in those days , (regardless of location on the globe) was done in a very similar manner.. i dont think they would argue amongst themselves about how it was done like we do ..... its time people GO backwards and PRACTICE these lost methods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and dont forget cutting the stones, perfectly, like laser precision, in many places around the globe&#8230;i think all rock lifting, cutting, building back in those days , (regardless of location on the globe) was done in a very similar manner.. i dont think they would argue amongst themselves about how it was done like we do &#8230;.. its time people GO backwards and PRACTICE these lost methods.</p>
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		<title>By: g</title>
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		<dc:creator>g</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2012 09:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this doesnt prove anything. try to use this method for stones over 10..20,000 tons.. yeah... not gonna work... thought so.
why is it ,that the idea of aliens..or..LIFE outside of this planet is so hard for others to even BEING to accept..?  humans constantly argue FACTS and  really dont know sh*t.. but what do you find it HARDER to believe... that there is life among BILLIONS of planets/ galaxies, stars, pressure conditions..etc..or that we are the ONLY life out of those billions..?
what does your GUT say? im betting  your repressed &quot;all knowing&quot; conscious and instinct  give you a feeling, of &quot;were not alone&quot;..which makes more sense than ignorance based on the miniscule amount of info the government will let you in on.. they hide truth and shove propaganda in your face daily and tell you there are no ufo&#039;s when they are seen everywhere by millions of people.why would ancients have drawings on walls of aliens? why would they all build pyramids? i doubt think they did it as a joke for people to find  thousands of years later...com&#039;on son...
people want PROOF of aliens.that&#039;s COMICAL...if thats the case.. do you believe in god? WHY? you dont physically see him? at least aliens fly around and let people see they are here.if its the military, whered they get the tech from? why do satallites show crafts at high rates of speed and making 90 degree turns, why are some of these crafts over miles long..thats huge..oh right..just space debris.lol. theres way more evidence that will suggest they are real, as opposed to some made up monster story..sometimes people need to stop thinking so hard and see whats in your face..then realize its NOT hard to believe. in fact, taking the universe into consideration should tell you off the top that theres tons of life out there.so why believe in god if not aliens?  you sure as hell see innocent and wrongful deaths everywhere..i think that would point in the opposite direction of a loving god.
 and facts, data, proof, is only proof to the person interpreting it and those who interpret it the same way. facts change, which means they were never facts to begin with.data is only as good as the person reading it makes it seem to be, and the method used by the machine which provided it in the first place.bottom line, just stop looking at facts..data..etc.. its not needed. ask yourself what you want to know and let your inner light answer for you . for every fact there is a debate just waiting. and NO..they didnt move HUGE blocks with a small rock method..maybe for smaller stones but i dont think they needed it. its called electricity..just used differently.the universe is electrical. its what you do with the tools, and how you use them. we use it for light bulbs. they used it far differently for far greater accomplishments .ed leedskalnin told everyone how it was done and PROOVED IT , but why should he just give away his breakthrough or ancient secrets ? but he did.. even wrote about how it was done..and would you believe many people still ignore what he was trying to say,  EVEN AFTER THEY SEE WHAT HE BUILT? instead of listening to the one guy who did it, people go in the opposite direction and use alternative methods because they don&#039;t understand the science to it. pure nonsense.all he did was follow what the ancients did, and he built a castle solo with basically no heavy equipment. too many folks stick to their conventional watered down, completely backwards way of thinking .maybe they should learn more of the PROPER KNOWLEDGE that the men in charge have tried hiding for evil reasons through generations. i hope everyone has a spiritual awaking soon.. we need more enlightened ones..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this doesnt prove anything. try to use this method for stones over 10..20,000 tons.. yeah&#8230; not gonna work&#8230; thought so.<br />
why is it ,that the idea of aliens..or..LIFE outside of this planet is so hard for others to even BEING to accept..?  humans constantly argue FACTS and  really dont know sh*t.. but what do you find it HARDER to believe&#8230; that there is life among BILLIONS of planets/ galaxies, stars, pressure conditions..etc..or that we are the ONLY life out of those billions..?<br />
what does your GUT say? im betting  your repressed &#8220;all knowing&#8221; conscious and instinct  give you a feeling, of &#8220;were not alone&#8221;..which makes more sense than ignorance based on the miniscule amount of info the government will let you in on.. they hide truth and shove propaganda in your face daily and tell you there are no ufo&#8217;s when they are seen everywhere by millions of people.why would ancients have drawings on walls of aliens? why would they all build pyramids? i doubt think they did it as a joke for people to find  thousands of years later&#8230;com&#8217;on son&#8230;<br />
people want PROOF of aliens.that&#8217;s COMICAL&#8230;if thats the case.. do you believe in god? WHY? you dont physically see him? at least aliens fly around and let people see they are here.if its the military, whered they get the tech from? why do satallites show crafts at high rates of speed and making 90 degree turns, why are some of these crafts over miles long..thats huge..oh right..just space debris.lol. theres way more evidence that will suggest they are real, as opposed to some made up monster story..sometimes people need to stop thinking so hard and see whats in your face..then realize its NOT hard to believe. in fact, taking the universe into consideration should tell you off the top that theres tons of life out there.so why believe in god if not aliens?  you sure as hell see innocent and wrongful deaths everywhere..i think that would point in the opposite direction of a loving god.<br />
 and facts, data, proof, is only proof to the person interpreting it and those who interpret it the same way. facts change, which means they were never facts to begin with.data is only as good as the person reading it makes it seem to be, and the method used by the machine which provided it in the first place.bottom line, just stop looking at facts..data..etc.. its not needed. ask yourself what you want to know and let your inner light answer for you . for every fact there is a debate just waiting. and NO..they didnt move HUGE blocks with a small rock method..maybe for smaller stones but i dont think they needed it. its called electricity..just used differently.the universe is electrical. its what you do with the tools, and how you use them. we use it for light bulbs. they used it far differently for far greater accomplishments .ed leedskalnin told everyone how it was done and PROOVED IT , but why should he just give away his breakthrough or ancient secrets ? but he did.. even wrote about how it was done..and would you believe many people still ignore what he was trying to say,  EVEN AFTER THEY SEE WHAT HE BUILT? instead of listening to the one guy who did it, people go in the opposite direction and use alternative methods because they don&#8217;t understand the science to it. pure nonsense.all he did was follow what the ancients did, and he built a castle solo with basically no heavy equipment. too many folks stick to their conventional watered down, completely backwards way of thinking .maybe they should learn more of the PROPER KNOWLEDGE that the men in charge have tried hiding for evil reasons through generations. i hope everyone has a spiritual awaking soon.. we need more enlightened ones..</p>
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		<title>By: MSH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MSH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For their part, they can start by proving there are or were aliens.  Once that&#039;s done, then alien assistance is on the table for discussion. Without that, talking about their assistance amounts to assuming what one needs to prove -- a classic logical fallacy.

If Egyptian construction techniques can be demonstrated as workable and scalable, then all the points ARE addressed with human technology and applied physics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For their part, they can start by proving there are or were aliens.  Once that&#8217;s done, then alien assistance is on the table for discussion. Without that, talking about their assistance amounts to assuming what one needs to prove &#8212; a classic logical fallacy.</p>
<p>If Egyptian construction techniques can be demonstrated as workable and scalable, then all the points ARE addressed with human technology and applied physics.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 19:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you&#039;ve done nothing to address any of the specific points this person has brought up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you&#8217;ve done nothing to address any of the specific points this person has brought up.</p>
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		<title>By: MSH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MSH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 04:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you really sound like an idiot in this one. Again, the discussion closes without one fact-based response on your part. Yes, adieu; my time is far better spent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you really sound like an idiot in this one. Again, the discussion closes without one fact-based response on your part. Yes, adieu; my time is far better spent.</p>
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