Comments on: New (Old) Evidence Against the Turin Shroud? http://michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/2009/12/new-old-evidence-against-the-turin-shroud/ Your antidote to cyber-twaddle and misguided research about the ancient world. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:48:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: MSH http://michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/2009/12/new-old-evidence-against-the-turin-shroud/comment-page-1/#comment-1695 MSH Sat, 01 May 2010 23:15:59 +0000 http://michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/?p=403#comment-1695 there may be two, but if there is a separate head covering, how would the facial image go through one and not the other? there may be two, but if there is a separate head covering, how would the facial image go through one and not the other?

]]> By: Joe http://michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/2009/12/new-old-evidence-against-the-turin-shroud/comment-page-1/#comment-1617 Joe Wed, 28 Apr 2010 17:02:10 +0000 http://michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/?p=403#comment-1617 Mike: Weren't there two cloths at the time of the burial? Isn't the cloth known as the sudarium of Oviedo reputed to be the head cloth and Shroud the burial cloth? So, if authentic, don't we have two cloths? Mike: Weren’t there two cloths at the time of the burial? Isn’t the cloth known as the sudarium of Oviedo reputed to be the head cloth and Shroud the burial cloth? So, if authentic, don’t we have two cloths?

]]> By: Shroud of Turin: Another Update | PaleoBabble http://michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/2009/12/new-old-evidence-against-the-turin-shroud/comment-page-1/#comment-1051 Shroud of Turin: Another Update | PaleoBabble Thu, 28 Jan 2010 04:41:05 +0000 http://michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/?p=403#comment-1051 [...] might recall this post from a little over a month ago about the discovery of a burial shroud in situ from Jesus’ [...] [...] might recall this post from a little over a month ago about the discovery of a burial shroud in situ from Jesus’ [...]

]]> By: MSH http://michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/2009/12/new-old-evidence-against-the-turin-shroud/comment-page-1/#comment-845 MSH Mon, 04 Jan 2010 20:34:28 +0000 http://michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/?p=403#comment-845 @Derek: point well taken about the biblical description. That said, the promoters of the Shroud will simply say the image was still superimposed on the "outer" cloth (the Shroud). There are artistic renderings (medieval, Renaissance - and so QUITE late and therefore unreliable) that show Jesus being covered with a single-piece shroud. And that means the renderings present us with a "chicken or egg" question - which came first? @Derek: point well taken about the biblical description. That said, the promoters of the Shroud will simply say the image was still superimposed on the “outer” cloth (the Shroud). There are artistic renderings (medieval, Renaissance – and so QUITE late and therefore unreliable) that show Jesus being covered with a single-piece shroud. And that means the renderings present us with a “chicken or egg” question – which came first?

]]> By: Derek http://michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/2009/12/new-old-evidence-against-the-turin-shroud/comment-page-1/#comment-842 Derek Mon, 04 Jan 2010 10:39:55 +0000 http://michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/?p=403#comment-842 As the article says, this assumes that the burial cloth of Jesus would have been the same weave as this one. From what I've read about the Shroud of Turin it has some pretty bizarre properties. However what I'm more inclined to think disproves its authenticity is the Biblical text itself. Since isn't the cloth meant to be in two pieces? One for the head and one for the body. The Shroud of Turin is a single piece. As the article says, this assumes that the burial cloth of Jesus would have been the same weave as this one.

From what I’ve read about the Shroud of Turin it has some pretty bizarre properties. However what I’m more inclined to think disproves its authenticity is the Biblical text itself. Since isn’t the cloth meant to be in two pieces? One for the head and one for the body. The Shroud of Turin is a single piece.

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