Noah’s Ark PaleoBabble Update

This is a sad post for me.  Read on and you’ll know why.

Fox News reported today about a joint Turkish-Chinese expedition that claims to have found Naoh’s ark on Mount Ararat.  Part of their proof is the picture below, which purports to have been taken inside the ark. Allegedly, the wooden beams carbon-date to 4,800 years old. Would that be cool or what?

Now the sad part. I also got an email today from one of Randall Price’s students. The email contains a message from Dr. Price about this expedition. (Dr. Price, as some of you may recall, has been doing a lot of searching for the ark lately.) Here is an excerpt from his message:

I was the archaeologist with the Chinese expedition in the summer of 2008 and was given photos of what they now are reporting to be the inside of the Ark. I and my partners invested $100,000 in this expedition (described below) which they have retained, despite their promise and our requests to return it, since it was not used for the expedition. The information given below is my opinion based on what I have seen and heard (from others who claim to have been eyewitnesses or know the exact details).

To make a long story short: this is all reported to be a fake. The photos were reputed to have been taken off site near the Black Sea, but the film footage the Chinese now have was shot on location on Mt. Ararat. In the late summer of 2008 ten Kurdish workers hired by Parasut, the guide used by the Chinese, are said to have planted large wood beams taken from an old structure in the Black Sea area (where the photos were originally taken) at the Mt. Ararat site. In the winter of 2008 a Chinese climber taken by Parasut’s men to the site saw the wood, but couldn’t get inside because of the severe weather conditions. During the summer of 2009 more wood was planted inside a cave at the site. The Chinese team went in the late summer of 2009 (I was there at the time and knew about the hoax) and was shown the cave with the wood and made their film. As I said, I have the photos of the inside of the so-called Ark (that show cobwebs in the corners of rafters – something just not possible in these conditions) and our Kurdish partner in Dogubabyazit (the village at the foot of Mt. Ararat) has all of the facts about the location, the men who planted the wood, and even the truck that transported it.

In short, Randall was duped. I feel bad about it because I know him. He’s a good guy with real degrees (so please don’t equate him with charlatans like Ron Wyatt). Yeah, he should have known better. But at least he’s being honest here.

160 thoughts on “Noah’s Ark PaleoBabble Update

  1. I love archaeology and and ancient civilizations but I just can’t seem to be budged by dr. mike heiser about his translations and how Sitchin is wrong kinda thing. My own translations and reading the crazy things in the Bible and Mesopotamia show that we do in fact even to well known anonymous scholars agree. Ancient Sumer whether he (heiser) likes it or not have a twelfth member in our solar system. I’ve seen alot of heisers writing and frankly he does like everybody else he uses opinion and own paraphrasing and mundane crap to use to his advantage a biblical debunker. Read the texts your self without that dumbass telling you what it means and doesn’t supposedly say.

    • it’s not a translation issue. You can’t argue about a translation of things that do not exist. In my Open letter to Sitchin, I ask him to produce actual tablet references for his wacky ET ideas like:

      * Please produce a single text that says the Anunnaki come from the planet Nibiru – or that Nibiru is a planet beyond Pluto.
      * Please produce a textual explanation for why Sitchin’s god = planet equivalencies do not match the listings of such matching in cuneiform astronomical texts.
      * Please produce textual evidence for why ALL known Sumerian/Mesopotamian astronomical texts make no reference to a planet beyond Saturn.

      He has lots of other problems, some of them reflecting contrived translations, but the above issues have ZERO to do with translation. I’m saying there isn’t a single line in any cuneiform text that says these things — and these ideas are central to his views. Like I said, you can’t argue about how to translate material that simply does not exist.

    • AND i suppose YOU can read ancient languages and have PHD’s and various Master’s Degrees in ancient languages??? yah, right…………………………..

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  3. There’s much more to this story. The leadership of the Chinese team (Noah’s Ark Ministries International) was in on this fraud from the beginning (2004) with Parasut and a few others; in fact, it was their (the NAMI leadership’s) idea. The motives were either largely or entirely financial – they all expected to make a lot of money off of it by showing and selling the movie around the world and possibly also through fundraisers, parks, museums, and paraphernalia. Everything you need to know about who was behind this fraud, how they’re doing it, and why they’re doing it (including pictures, videos, and scientific evidence) has been revealed by people who personally know the perpetrators and/or have visited the site of the “discovery”. This information has been collected and is available at

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  7. Facile d’extrapoler pour faire du nihilisme en ce qui concernerait cette trouvaille.
    Un néo-nazie prétendait qu’une simple stèle de souvenir sur une pelouse ne pouvait pas prouver qu’un ancien camp de concentration se trouvait à cet endroit il y avait 60 ans seulement avant d’être razé. A plus forte raison cette chose dans les glaces à 4200 m d’altitude en Turquie.
    C’est comme la découverte de roue de char en Mer Rouge dans le golfe d’Aquaba.
    On y voit des concrétions corraliennes recouvrant des essieux de char de des roues.
    Même une roue avec une lamelle d’or d’un char d’éllite Egyptien.
    Bien sur tout cela qualifié d’oax par ceux que ça dérange.
    Peut on laisser des faits détruire la libre pensée agnostique.

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