Transporting the Trilithon Stones of Baalbek: It’s About Applied Physics, Not Ancient Aliens

PaleoBabble readers know that ancient astronaut theorists suffer from a fixation on megalithic construction. The “impossibility” of moving stones of great size and tremendous weight appears to them as proof of alien assistance. This argument of course is simply reduced to “since I can’t figure out how it was done, it must have been aliens.” Rather than focus on the absurdity of this logic, I’ve tried to introduce readers to peer-reviewed scholarship on ancient construction and engineering. Egypt’s pyramids have received a lot of attention here in that regard. I want to turn now to Baalbek, specifically the famous trilithon (the three stones at the base of the Roman temple at the site).

There isn’t much written on this that’s available to the non-specialist, and most of what is available isn’t in English. At the risk of directing readers to a source that won’t be much use since it’s in French, I still think it’s useful to demonstrate that scholars have put serious thought into the trilithon, and have come up with workable solutions that have been successful in analogous situations (in this case, something even bigger than the trilithon – yes, ancient alien enthusiasts, the trilithon is NOT the largest object moved without modern machines; keep reading). A very good (and lengthy) scholarly journal article in French about moving the trilithon by ancient mechanical means is available on the web: Jean-Pierre Adam, “A propos du trilithon de Baalbek. Le transport et la mise en oeuvre des megaliths,” Syria 54:1-2 (1977): 31-63 (English translation: “Concerning the trilithon of Baalbek: Transportation and the Implementation of the Megaliths”). Two caveats on the article: (1) It’s very technical. It’s filled with mathematical discussion since its author is quite familiar with analyzing such problems via applied physics; (2) my French stinks. As such, I converted the article to text and used Google Translate, then went through and smoothed things out. I did not do this for the full article (I have better things to do). However, I have given readers important excerpts of this 32 page article. If you read French, then you can check on the translation and send me updates.

On pages 34-37 the author discusses ancient writers who described construction techniques for moving large stone objects. He writes:

“The advantage of this unique publication is exacerbated by the fact that, although written during the reign of Augustus, the treaty made a broad appeal to the art of building Greeks whose author cites the lost works of theorists and the most famous architects. In the context of this brief study, our interest is in the tenth book of Vitruvius, where we find a detailed description of the process and machinery used on construction sites of Greece and Rome and the author mentions at the same time the efficient and widespread job. The transport of megaliths is not forgotten . . .

Vitruvius cites two anecdotes relating to the construction . . . He sank both ends of “column each iron bolts made of Swallow-tailed and are sealed” with lead, having taken the precaution to put in the pieces of wood cross-sectional “dirty iron rings, in which bolts came in as “hubs. In addition, he strengthens his machine by attaching the two “pieces of oak ties, so that when the horse pulling the” bolts turned so easily into the rings, all the “shafts of the columns rolled easily on land to their destination.”

The second transport means for the megaliths described by Vitruvius . . . consisted of wheels twelve feet (approx. 3.60 m) and “locked both ends of the architraves in the middle of the wheels. He put “as bolts and iron rings, so that when the horse” pulling the machine, put the bolts in the iron rings were “turning the wheels. Thus, the architraves, which were in the wheels “as axles, were dragged and taken on the spot.”

He provides the following drawing to illustrate these techniques (Fig 2). Note how the absence of a round shape was no obstacle to moving something like a whole large pillar or obelisk — you simply gave it roundness at the ends to roll it. Very clever.

On page 42 the author introduces what will become for him an analogous point of reference for his proposed solution to moving the trilithon of Baalbek:

“. . . 1,250,000 kilograms . . . is the weight of the great block of granite the Empress Catherine II of Russia (1762-1796) . . . carried to St. Petersburg (now Leningrad) to serve as a colossal base to the equestrian statue of Peter the Great. This is likely the largest stone ever moved by man, one and a half times the weight trilithon blocks [at Baalbek.]”

 

Hope you caught that — an object 1.5 times the weight of the trilithon was successfully moved in the 18th century — no modern cranes. They did it with manpower, not alien know-how. He mentions other large objects successfully moved by human engineers, but this one gets special attention because it was a larger problem than the trilithon.

The rest of the article is devoted to Baalbek’s trilithon. Throughout pages 52-63, the author discusses the physics and engineering problems and solutions. Some excerpts:

“To appreciate the magnitude of the work, and justify the solution adapted to it, it is necessary to give the figures for to the heavier blocks, namely those of trilithon As its name suggests this set consists of three stones measuring respectively, 19.60 m, 19.30 m and 19.10 m long, 4.34 m high, 3.65 m deep. Their average weight is nearly 800 tons. . . . every stone has nearly 10 m in length for an average weight of 350 tonnes . . . After recalling the experiences of St. Petersburg, Luxor, and Carrara, we can obtain a more lucidly clean solution for this megalithic structure and more particularly to the construction of the trilithon.”

 

The author discusses using ox power to move the stones, a solution he will reject because of the lack of space on the site for the oxen:

“To solve the problem of Baalbek in the most comprehensive, we will consider the establishment of one of the heaviest blocks, that is to say one of the stones of 800,000 kg constituting the trilithon; the interventions for elements lighter in the deduction will be logical.

So either one of these stones completely detached from the rock and relaxing on logs. The floor beams receiving the convoy has a rolling flat surface to reduce the weight hauled to 66,600 kg. Knowing that an ox can provide a work of 80 kgm per second, continuously for one hour, we deduce there should be 825 of these animals to transport one of trilithon stones on a horizontal floor. Traditionally, it is estimated that an ox can pull a load 1.000 kg placed on a chariot. If we consider the block of 800,000 kg of the trilithon, it follows that 800 oxen are needed to move it.”

 

The author notes some logistical problems with using oxen before moving to a human solution:

“Certainly the yoke was known to mate the oxen, and in the case normal load, the pole was attached directly to the yoke between two animals, but when it came to transport heavy, each torque cattle was connected to the load by a cable or pole. . . . Xenophon gives us a confirmation on the use of this type coupling in the description he gives us the means employed by Cyrus to ensure the movement of heavy battle rounds . . . Each turn with wheels, was equipped with 8 drawbars which were harnessed eight pairs of oxen pulling front.

Despite the apparent simplicity of this energy source, we prefer to look to the human powered, with which the weakness in muscle is compensated by the extreme technical elaboration of the device multiplier used. In the event of a traction provided by the duration of the capstans, movement is a bit longer, since it multiplies the distance traveled by the load, in favor of the force and must ensure the in place and anchor machinery. The advantage of this method lies in the extremely small number of workers needed and the greater accuracy of the progression, allowing rigorous implementation of blocks the one above and beside the other. . . . Each capstan bar with four men using it would make 24 in total. . . . The force exerted directly by the capstan 24 men and six bar is at 20 kg per man of 480 kg. Taking center force application to 1.70 m from the center of rotation and a radius of drum of 10 cm, this force becomes (by a form winch) 8160 kg. Four cables of hemp, each providing four tons of traction, wind around the drum and by acting on the load through a hoist with two pulleys, generate a power of 16,320 kg of the machine; 13,056 kg reduced power by the coefficient of friction. Six of these machines, involving 144 men and providing traction power of 78,336 kg must allow, with a margin of excess power always useful, the transportation of each block of trilithon.”

 

Since the above is hard to conceptualize, the author includes a drawing of the simple, yet effective solution to moving the trilithon.

Simple, workable, and human. Once again, the ancient alien theorist’s low view of human intelligence and practical engineering prowess is demonstrated.

86 thoughts on “Transporting the Trilithon Stones of Baalbek: It’s About Applied Physics, Not Ancient Aliens

  1. Did you by any chance notice that the Thunder Stone, was moved on ice??
    They had to wait for the ground to be frozen…
    Unlikely to be possible in the uneven rocky terrain in Lebanon.
    You compare apple and pears to validate your theory of pseudo-scientifico-babble.

    Furthermore, old heavy stones were dated more 10.000 years old, before the technology you refer to was even supposedly available…

      • the site of yonaguni is underwater, so at least 10,000 years old.
        I guess you will as me for a study proving that it is not a natural formation :)

        • you’re right – I’d like a study so I can post it. But this is beside the point. Let’s assume it’s ten thousand years old. On what basis does that inform us about a structure on thousands of miles away representative of a different culture? So it’s 10K years old – I’m saying it’s still entirely human technology. So let’s see the evidence for non-human technology.

          Point: Are you arguing for alien intervention? First you need to establish there are aliens, else you assume what you need to prove:

          – there’s a really huge old structure located at X.
          – I can’t think of a way humans could have built it.
          – aliens must have built it or helped.
          – therefore, there are aliens.
          – and so we’ve proven aliens built X.

          It’s circular. But if the point isn’t aliens, I’m not sure what you’re pressing for.

          • I’m not pressing for AA.
            I just think more advanced HUMAN civilizations (socially, ethically, mentally AND technologically (non-invasive, polluting, technology), far more ancient than mainstream archaeologists think, might have existed before the flood, and disappeared leaving almost no trace because of the tragic and catastrophic events (the flood) that occurred on our planet.

            But I do not discard aliens. I just do not know. We have no solid evidence, it does not mean we won’t find any one day. But you’re right, aliens are not needed to explain very ancient structures.

            Still, these structures ARE there, lime Puma Punku, and if there were no aliens involved, humans must have had an advanced way of cutting and piercing the stones.
            Obvious.

            • You keep referring to the “flood’ as the demise of an ancient civilization that may or may not have existed as the culprits that may or may not have built all these ancient ruins…. Are you :Bible Thumping”?

              • Religion is belief in someone else’s experience.
                Spirituality is having your own experience.
                These discussions are pointless and don’t make any sense.
                You don’t know the truth more than I do.

                Meditate, turn your attention inwards, that’s all that is needed.

                I’m out of this conversation.

                Blessings to all

              • Did you ever try to meditate and get intuitive information from inside without needing a proof coming out of reasoning, from outside?

                Basically that’s what Jesus and all spiritual teachers told us to do:
                “The Kingdom of Heaven is inside of you” ==> MEDITATE, SHOW LOVE, RESPECT OTHERS.

                Have fun arguing on wether Sitchin is right or wrong, or how did they move these stones while the planet is being destroyed by our unhealthy habits.

                Then you will tell me this is out of subject.
                You can reply whatever you want, this is my last reply on this blog.

                Only the inside subjective experiences are real and tell you the truth, not unproductive continuous argumenting on the Net to prove your theory is right and someone else’s theory is wrong.

                Time to grow up a little bit a focus on what’s truly important: THE PRESENT.

                Happy new year :)

              • The musings of my head and heart don’t inform me about ancient construction techniques. Neither do yours. Just doing something else Jesus said to do: tell the truth.

              • Ok, I will post one more thing.

                To understand how these advanced people moved these stones you mlght want to watch some videos on the work of Nassim Haramein (physicist, scientist) (it will take you 10h tough).

                After that, we can continue this discussion.
                What he says will maybe give you a new understanding of reality.

                (just as a teaser)

                resonance.is official website for a new kind of physics (the one ancient civs were using)

                If you decide not to watch, then we can’t of course DisQus it :)

                You are right, Jesus said to tell THE truth, not YOUR truth.
                Love each other and do good to others as if it were yourself.

                Apparently you have a hard time standing points of vues different from yours.
                Maybe you should sometimes consider NOT HAVING THE LAST WORD :).
                Ego is a dangerous thing.

                Happy new year.

    • The techniques are valid with or without ice conditions. Other methods (e.g., gravel) are known that assist movement if needed. I suppose your alternative is levitation? Lots of real world examples for that.

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  4. It took the British Admiralty over forty years to convince the scientific community then, that Scurvy could be cured by eating oranges.
    They thought that was too fkn simple too.

  5. You would have greatly benefited from reading the last scientific studies on the quarries and the two trilithon stones still in place published by Dr Jeanine Abdul-Massih, who has been studying them within the Project “Urban Development in Baalbek” between 2003-2012. Look up BAAL Hors Serie IV as a starter.

  6. A – Life abunds in the universe.
    B – Life in any planets, are implemented artifically. All planets are terraformed, life artificially developed in order to create a vessel where consciouness can inhabit.
    C – As in all other planets, such as the EARTH, civilizations came, tought some STUFF, to its people, and did what the have to do. genetical manipulation. We live in an open lab, where reports to abduction and sexual intercourse with beings human or close to human happen all the time.
    D – They hide partially the evidence, but they leak enought to connect the dots as a friend told above. We seriously are suffering from cognitive dissonance. If you read any ancient text, I said any, you will find the same sort of pattern, technological beings dealing with primitive beings. At some point there is some marriage or rape, and the like. Also a lot of teachings, and fitghting with the neghbours who are defined as inferior.
    It is easy to come here, and throw to us, a lot of “established facts” made out by i”ntelectuals” from the XIX highly charged with ideology and authority, and make us swallow this buch of “rational” unproven, and unscientific data.
    I am sorry, BUT IT WONT STICK OK?
    I will tell you something, you religious guys up there, that quote the Bible, to say it is the work of G-D. I tell you something. Torah Emet. That means, the truth above all. These beings may be teaching about the Creator of all. But following the same rationale, of the thinkers, who were defining what G-D actually is. You may take the Rambam, or the Kabbalah if you will, what we see, does not follow their definition, is a contradictions.
    SO WHAT ARE THEY?

    HOPE I WAS VERY CLEAR GUYS, IF YOU WANT EASY ANSWERS, GO BUY SOME FASTFOOD, AND DREAM ON, BUT IF YOU WANT REAL ANSWERS, ONLY THE REAL RESEARCH WILL DO OK?

    I will not even bother in putting up a bibliography, the Baalbec site is clear much older than roman times, it hasn´t any characteristic of the roman constructions, so it is idle to discuss here with closed mind people, for those who want real answers, jus let this people talk among their peers. It is a battle of information and ideology I am afraid, and perhaps there is lot at stake, but perhaps it is just one more of the puzzles these people, those BEINGS left us with up to know.
    It is the same pattern of the Crop circles, hide and seek, show and then hide again. For the ones who believe in their capacity of believing in its own perception, will may get something, but if you wait to people feed you with truth, as I said above, just sit and wait, forever.

    • Real research? Like what you offered for your first point? What evidence do you have that NASA and SETI don’t for the claim that the universe teems with life. In real-ville, we just don’t know that factually — that’s why scientists are still looking for it. Thanks for that real research.

      Your other ideas extend from this unproven one, so we don’t get real research there, either. Like — do you have evidence anyone is hiding evidence? (Have to love the circularity there). Conspiracy theories aren’t, by definition, evidence. They are, well, THEORIES.

      What a dead end.

      • For your circular, absence of evidence isn’t evidence of absence. It took decades for the Smithsonian to be ordered by a federal judge to turn over any and all materials related to giants in the united States, and the Smithsonian is still dragging their feet and probably destroying the evidence in their basement archives. Also, for misinformation, or lack of scientific evidence, why is it ILLEGAL to hunt, shoot and/or kill a bigfoot, whether intentionally or accidentally with up to a $100,000 fine and up to 25 years in prison??? The government has all of these safeguards set up so if “we”, the dumb average person comes across and spreads the info, their life is completely over??? Funny, this here I know, the men in black, have been around from before the UFO craze. And the one YOU cannot discount, when Lot and his wife housed those two beings (angels) not of this earth and the whole freaking community knew they weren’t human, even offering his two young virgin daughters to be massively gang raped to protect these beings… It’s not the one little incident that gets people going, it’s when you start connecting the dots from all over and when over… Stuff doesn’t add up and you can’t hide behind a degree or PhD and say say it’s all completely explainable, because if it was explainable, we wouldn’t have religion whatsoever. By the way, if you read about Solomon’s Temple, how he was given the instructions on how to build the temple? That’s great!!! But… WTF is it built on??? That foundation was already there in 1,000bc, and those stones on a hill are heavier then the trilithon stones, and there is no flat level ground to roll block of that size either… God did not tell him to build the foundation because it was already there. That is where all of the prophets and angels ascended and descended to earth… Shem, not shumu for the rockets of ancient Sumeria, completely different word/context. Like calling something “bunk” because its crap vs what you lay in, can do either, but again, mistranslation has been going on since writing started so don’t spout out that these 10 scholars know exactly what all this ancient Sumerian stuff 100% means, that is arrogance, man’s true downfall. Hell, the dead Sea scrolls are already proving modern translations of the Bible and it’s stories are wrong, so what happens when the Mahabharata and Egyptian stories coincide but these scholars translations of Sumeria don’t with the other two??? Obviously these scholars are in error. One question tho, where is the Rosetta Stone for Sumerian? I only ask because akkadian and Sumerian cuneiform looks the same, reads similar, but obviously there are translation errors and don’t follow. I don’t know about you, but that time frame is what, over a thousand years at least? So, if there are no mistranslations and these scholars are 100%, then that means I can go to any school in the US, say 5th grade, and give the kids a book written in old English right? And they will know for 100% what they are reading? How about modern British English vs American English? I’m in my 30’s and I’m educated, military and college, and I don’t know wtf “Bloke” means. It English, does it mean block? Is it pronounced block? Blow K? The thing is, they put their best educated guess in the translations, but ironically, the people who wrote on those clay tablets? We’re about as educated as our 2nd graders. Even if they were as educated as 12th grade seniors, 1 out of 4 can’t even read their own diploma! So if their are errors on old texts? They are dismissed as hoaxes when they come to a controversial topic… Bunk, or rather, that’s bull crap right?

    • Haha, left brain scientist will never find any truth.

      Mister Heiser, if you genuinely think all crop circles were made by Jack and Joe using snow shoes,
      it is really pointless to discuss.

      Mainstream science is based on division, not unity.
      It does NOT include consciousness (which is not generated by the brain but we are the consciousness of the multiverse, please meditate to find out)

      Advanced civs WERE there, it is SO obvious that they had technology to lift the stones.
      Where is this tech then?
      The Ark of the Covenant would suit your needs, I guess.

      A device that can split the Red Sea in 2 is enough proof for me.
      To know where is the Ark is now, please watch the video from Graham Hancock.

      Wake up mate, accept YOU’RE WRONG :)
      You feel better after; you’ll see.
      I did it many times, I have no problem with admitting my mistakes.
      But it’s not the case here.

      To understand the physics of the ARK watch the video of Nassim Haramein (Rogue Valley 2003) on YouTube

      Wish you a good awakening.

      • Your comments make little sense. You seem to look for things to assume about me that I never said (like the circles). And any side of the brain, devoid of data, resolves nothing. Let’s hear an example of how a data-less right brain solved anything – remember, no facts please.

        • Haha, I’m done here.
          You will never understand.

          THERE ARE NO ALIENS, ALL THE UNIVERSE IS INSIDE EACH OF US.
          It’s only a more evolved part of OUR consciousness that people call aliens.

          Please watch the videeos from Haramein (I sent the link).
          Read the Gospel of Thomas and the Pistis Sophia and the Book of Jeu
          (I’m sure you have) with a new eye.
          Read the books of Giuliana Conforto.

          The universe also is going in circles (or in a vortex motion), not only me.

          If you spend your entire life looking for proofs or facts in the material world, then I’m very sad for you, because you won’t find any.

          http://altering-perspectives.com/2013/06/giant-pyramids-and-sphinxes-found-in.html?utm_source=tipw

  7. I’ve stumbled on this page after hearing noticing a TV programme on in the background called Ancient Aliens. I’ve never heard such nonsense in my life, I’m assuming all these idiots sell a lot of books. There is a core of these people that are wheeled out with every documentary about UFOs or conspiracies – now they are historians and archaeologists too! I’m just shocked that it has airtime on a history based TV channel. I do try to be open minded about mysteries and certainly believe there is life out in the universe, probably quite a lot of it. I could accept the theory that maybe in the past, an extraterrestrial species visited this planet – I can’t rule it out. Hell, I even read Chariots of the Gods as a teen.

    But there is a difference between being open to possibilities and just being frickin’ stupid. The prevailing reasoning of the show’s contributors is where there is no immediate easy explanation a layman would understand – then aliens did it. Pyramids – aliens did it, Babylonian gods – aliens, mythical beasts – alien hybrids, Indian Vedas – aliens, Angels – aliens, God – alien commander, Ark of the Covenant – alien technology, I could go on and on. But for every point of history, from creation until now, if they cannot accept an explanation – aliens are responsible, even if proven otherwise. You don’t understand how that massive stone was moved? Why it was aliens, of course! Such logic isn’t just a quantum leap of ignorance, it’s sets back human understanding massively.

    Such nonsense is so appealing to certain personality types who will just blindly accept it, or simply do not know better. But it is so disingenuous and really, downright insulting. Our ancestors did many great things, the ancient world was full of mystery and wonder – more than we will probably ever know, we have lost so much. But to fill that void with aliens, is a great disservice to our forefathers who achieved such incredible feats. Who built the Pyramids? Was it creatures that travelled unfathomable distances across the cosmos? No, it was the workers who’s dwellings can be seen on the plateau today. We know where they lived, what they ate and where their tombs are. They did not use force-fields and lasers, they used what was -to them- established techniques, moreover they used their very human strength of will, their service to, and unwavering belief in their Pharaoh, their gods and the land that gave them life. To deny those amazing, creative and ingenious people that achievement, to reduce it to mere flying saucers and little green men, is a desecration of their memory and their lives. It robs them of everything they lived and died for and all they have left to us today.

    • You know the best way to get the best answers? Post on the internet an intriguing question and spout out all the facts that make it absolutely wrong! You will get thousands of replies with sources, hyperlinks, bibliographies, etc etc…Why post a thesis on a hot topic when you can get the masses to do it for you? I don’t need a PhD to get the same research and resources as them, then turn around and use their paraphrased work as a source. I’m no dummy, and I’m not lazy, I learn from the mistakes of others and benefit from their work. Some call me lazy, but I find that making Masters and PhD’s do my work for me to be quite….. Satisfactory. I’m not lazy, never call me that, but I’ll accept efficient intelligent person. And my motto comes from a $4.99 t-shirt from Walmart, stating “I’m not lazy, I’m energy efficient”. Maybe not my own original work, but like our education system, built off of others. Like true management, why do the work of scholars when you’re smarter then them?

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  10. Your “scientific” “explanation” pertaining to the construction of Baalbek (Baal) is nothing but expedient babble in the hopes that the layman cannot understand the diagrams and technical “jargon”, and will automatically accept your “explanation” based on your “expertise” because, they don’t know what you’re talking about. I notice scientists who haven’t a real explanation for the unexplained are quick to rely on this tactic in order to keep the naive and uneducated believing your word is bible, and also to save your own reputations. I’m a theoretical physicist. Please lay your pseudo science on the fools.

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  12. Sorry but there has been ancient civilizations who had knowledge that is not readily available today, except in the case of Edward Leedskalnin.

  13. For me, this was definitely the most important post of the year,.. that was ruined by unparalleled arrogance. – The information was incredible and really made me stop at several points and just think in silence. – I had to reappraise EVERYTHING i thought of to include these new concepts which i consider myself richer to have stumbled across.

    The author has an obvious scorn for unconventional thinking to the point of vendetta. – Its almost as if their parents were kidnapped by free-thinkers and forced to wear tin-foil hats and now they seeks revenge by authoring strongly worded articles with passive aggressive admonishments to anyone who thinks unlike they do.

    I would STRONGLY suggest any further publications were created free of malice, instead replaced with content that inspires rather than condemns people with differing thought patterns. – As an obviously gifted author there is a responsibility to ensure that the important information you have is brought to the attention of those who need it the most, as such you will need to take a more placid approach and ask yourself if you want to be a policeman (and tell people off for believing in things you find silly) or a Teacher (and educate with patience and kindness).

    With your undeniable skill in the written word, i would suggest the latter.
    You could have the most groundbreaking information in the world, but if you are an ass-hole, people will ONLY remember your ass-holery.

    Ps – Using the word ‘Debunked’ in any context is merely announcing you are emotionally offended at an idea and are no longer taking in any new information due to having already decided you are right. – I would strongly suggest you incorporate a less pretentious term for the benefit of your future readers.

    I wish you the very best of luck.

  14. They were smart enough to cut and move 800 Ton blocks according to this article but not smart enough to break into a more manageable task… 100 X 8 Ton?, even 8 X 100 Ton would be better. It makes no sense to me that you can coordinate a large number of workers over many years with obvious technical knowledge but couldn’t figure out how to make the job easier by cutting smaller blocks… the architect said ‘no’?
    Ive only just started looking into this.

  15. One thought comes to mind when I read anything telling me how something was done; Show me!
    I want someone, anyone, everyone who thinks they KNOW how these block were underCUT much less MOVED, to get their ropes and wooden pulleys, their copper chisels and wood mallets along with their 40,000 human workforce over to Baalbek and SHOW ME!
    Until someone can show me, these THEORIES are irrelevant and an Ancient Alien hypothesis no more ridiculous than chisels and ropes.

    Peace

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