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		<title>The Myth of the Burning Garbage Dump of Gehenna</title>
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		<title>Biblical Anthropology, Part 5</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my last biblical anthropology post, I posed these three questions. Here they are again with some proposed answers: 1. When nephesh is described as being in sheol, does the term refer to only the inner part, the body, or the totality? It seems that if Sheol refers to the grave, the answer would be [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my last biblical anthropology post, I posed these three questions. Here they are again with some proposed answers:</p>
<p><strong>1. When </strong><em><strong>nephesh </strong></em><strong>is described as being in sheol, does the term refer to only the inner part, the body, or the totality? It seems that if Sheol refers to the grave, the answer would be “totality.”  See Psa 16:10; 30:3; Psa 56:13.</strong></p>
<p>Psa 16:10 isn&#8217;t hard to parse in my view.</p>
<p>For you will not abandon my soul to Sheol,</p>
<p>or let your holy one see corruption.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s pretty clear that this verse sees the total person (body and soul). But there are two interpretive options here.</p>
<p>A. The word translated &#8220;corruption&#8221; here is <em>shachat</em>, a word that often means &#8220;pit&#8221; elsewhere (cf. Ezek. 19:4; Job 9:31; Psa 7:15). As such, there is parallelism between &#8220;Sheol&#8221; and &#8220;pit&#8221;. They obviously both mean grave (hole in the ground). The verse therefore could be a statement of physical deliverance from death. This seems the most coherent view. Since death involved the cessation of life in terms of both body and its animation, we&#8217;d have a &#8220;whole person&#8221; reference here if the psalmist is talking about physical deliverance from lethal danger.</p>
<p>B. The statement could also be a statement of afterlife deliverance from Sheol, in which case, the immaterial part of a person goes to Sheol and the body does not. That idea may be expressed more clearly in other verses (see below), but it has problems here. Here&#8217;s how the verse would break down:</p>
<p>For you will not abandon my soul (inner immaterial part) to Sheol (the Underworld),</p>
<p>or let your holy one (the body?) see the pit (the grave).</p>
<p>&#8220;Holy one&#8221; would have to stand in place of the body. This is a bit of a stretch. We&#8217;d also have to separate Sheol from the pit and have one refer to the Underworld while the other doesn&#8217;t &#8211; it refers only to the dirt grave. Do we have any reason to do that other than what we &#8220;see&#8221; in the verse (in other words, is exegesis producing interpretation, or vice versa)?</p>
<p>Option A is just easier and free of problems. Occam&#8217;s razor.<sup class='footnote'><a href='#fn-443-1' id='fnref-443-1'>1</a></sup></p>
<p>How about Psalm 30:3?</p>
<p>O Lord, you have brought up my soul from Sheol;</p>
<p>you restored me to life from among those who go down to the pit.</p>
<p>Here we have the same Sheol/pit parallel, but &#8220;pit&#8221; is a different (very common) Hebrew word (<em>bor</em>). It&#8217;s a hole in the ground (see Gen 37:20 for where the word is used &#8211; familiar story).</p>
<p>The verb &#8220;restored me to life&#8221; is the common verb <em>chayah </em>(&#8220;to make or keep alive&#8221;; &#8220;revive&#8221;). It&#8217;s easy to see how this text also refers to physical deliverance from fatal harm, and is not commenting on the afterlife. The same problems in Psalm 16 are present here.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s Psa 56:13</p>
<p>For you have delivered my soul from death,</p>
<p>yes, my feet from falling,</p>
<p><span> </span>that I may walk before God</p>
<p>in the light of life.</p>
<p>This is also pretty easy to identify as physical deliverance (the psalmist wants to continue in the &#8220;light of life&#8221; &#8212; and one can walk before God in this life (cf. Gen 17:1-2 for the same phrase).</p>
<p><strong>2. But then what about passages that have the </strong><em><strong>ruach </strong></em><strong>apparently disembodied?  See Eccl 3:21; Eccl 12:7 (it appears the </strong><em><strong>ruach </strong></em><strong>“goes” somewhere after death; it leaves the body).</strong></p>
<p>Here are the two verses:</p>
<p>Eccl. 3:21 &#8211; Who knows whether the spirit of man goes upward and the spirit of the beast goes down into the earth?</p>
<p>Eccl 12:7 &#8211; and the dust returns to the earth as it was, and the spirit returns to God who gave it.</p>
<p>The first one perhaps targets some cultural or religious belief that there is a difference between humans and animals when it comes to death and the afterlife (&#8220;who knows&#8221;), but whatever that is isn&#8217;t made clear. I think both verses taken in tandem do point to the idea that, upon death, the spirit &#8212; the immaterial part of a human being, the thing which animates the body, the &#8220;life spark&#8221; if you will, returns to God who is perceived as dwelling above the firmament / heavens. Does this refer to afterlife, or is it more general?  Here&#8217;s what I mean.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s start with the general idea. This could speak universally in the sense that the ancient writer conceived of the &#8220;life spark&#8221;, which was originally imparted to humanity by God (Gen 2:7) returns to God at death. The body would go to the grave. The problem, then, would be matching this up with the idea of Sheol. It is clear there is some sort of consciousness associated with the afterlife, even in Sheol. How is this possible without the &#8220;thing&#8221; (spirit/soul) in which the inner life is associated in the rest of the Hebrew Bible? If that&#8217;s &#8220;outta here&#8221; then how can there be ANY afterlife in Sheol?</p>
<p>Now for the second option: this language speaks of the &#8220;dust&#8221; (a euphemism for the body, since it was created from &#8220;the dust of the ground&#8221;; cf. Genesis 2:7) returning to the ground &#8211;but here conceived of as the Underworld&#8211;and the spirit (the immaterial part) returning to God in a salvation-afterlife sense. In other words, it&#8217;s poetic language for a positive afterlife with the body staying behind. This is possible in Israelite thinking, since the subject of a physical resurrection is asserted only in texts that are demonstrably late (Ezekiel and Daniel 12).<sup class='footnote'><a href='#fn-443-2' id='fnref-443-2'>2</a></sup> To be consistent with the rest of the canon, one would have to argue that such salvation is only for the righteous, not all.</p>
<p>My inclination here is to go with the first view with a slight adjustment. &#8220;Sheol&#8221; is simply a cosmic-geographical conception that refers to TWO &#8220;places&#8221; in Israelite thinking: (1) &#8220;where everyone goes when they die&#8221; and (2) &#8220;where the unrighteous remain after going there when they die.&#8221; This double-duty of the word is important.</p>
<p>It seems to me that these verses in Ecclesiastes do *not* contradict the ideas I&#8217;ve blogged before related to the negative and positive view of the afterlife in the OT: everyone dies and goes &#8220;to the great beyond&#8221; (a general description even we use today to refer to the &#8220;spiritual realm&#8221;; Sheol referent #1); the righteous among them go to be with the Lord (there&#8217;s the spirit departing to God idea from Ecclesiastes) and the unrighteous do not (they remain in Sheol, which is anything but pleasant &#8211; Sheol referent #2). Those in Sheol have a conscious afterlife because their spirit &#8212; which, having left the body now belongs to the &#8220;spiritual realm&#8221;&#8211;hasn&#8217;t left Sheol to go anywhere else. The righteous also have a conscious afterlife because their spirit is just at a different address in the &#8220;spiritual realm.&#8221; As I&#8217;ve noted before, this isn&#8217;t as developed as the NT thinking, but it&#8217;s one the same page for sure.</p>
<p><strong>3. What about passages where ruach and nephesh both occur?  Are they distinguished or are they “parallel” to each other?  Here’s the list of the ones that matter (i.e., ruling out clear references to wind or God’s spirit):</strong></p>
<p>Job 7:11</p>
<p>“Therefore I will not restrain my mouth;</p>
<p>I will speak in the anguish of my spirit;</p>
<p>I will complain in the bitterness of my soul.</p>
<p>1 Sam 1:15</p>
<p>But Hannah answered, “No, my lord, I am a woman troubled in spirit. I have drunk neither wine nor strong drink, but I have been pouring out my soul before the Lord.</p>
<p>It would be silly to think that one set of emotions come from the spirit and another set comes from the soul. We&#8217;ve already seen that the terms overlap with each other in a whole range of emotions. They are clearly parallel and synonyms here in both passages.</p>
<p>Job 12:10</p>
<p>In his hand is the life of every living thing</p>
<p>and the breath of all mankind.</p>
<p>The terms are also synonyms here, by virtue of the abundant references for each term as referring to life itself and breath (a &#8220;vital sign&#8221;).</p>
<p>Isa 26:9</p>
<p>My soul yearns for you in the night;</p>
<p>my spirit within me earnestly seeks you.</p>
<p><span> </span>For when your judgments are in the earth,</p>
<p>the inhabitants of the world learn righteousness.</p>
<p>The terms are also synonyms here since, as we saw in <strong><a href="http://michaelsheiser.com/TheNakedBible/category/realm-of-the-dead/" target="_blank">past posts</a></strong>, both refer to inner yearning when used separately.</p>
<p>Now for some additional questions to tackle:</p>
<p>1. What about Old Testament thinking about the &#8220;heart&#8221;? Does this point to a third part of a human being, or does it overlap with nephesh and ruach?</p>
<p>2. What about the OT shema statements (&#8220;You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might&#8221;)?  How should these be understood? Do they contribute anything to the discussion?</p>
<p>3. What about New Testament statements that apparently distinguish between soul and spirit?  (For example, Hebrews 4:12).</p>
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<li id='fn-443-1'>You may be wondering if this passage teaches physical resurrection since it is used by the NT writer of Jesus. If you&#8217;ve spent any time looking at how the NT uses OT quotations, you know that NT usage doesn&#8217;t drive OT meaning since the NT author at times doesn&#8217;t care about original OT meaning (and vice versa) &#8211; the OT gets repurposed in many cases. <span class='footnotereverse'><a href='#fnref-443-1'>&#8617;</a></span></li>
<li id='fn-443-2'>Even if one dates Daniel to the 6th century BC instead of the 2nd century BC, it&#8217;s still a late idea relative to the rest of the Hebrew Bible. <span class='footnotereverse'><a href='#fnref-443-2'>&#8617;</a></span></li>
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		<title>Sheol: The OT &#8220;Bad Place&#8221;?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 06:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the last post I sketched out how the OT does indeed contain the idea of some sort of afterlife with God beyond and external to Sheol for the righteous. In this post, we&#8217;ll look at the unrighteous who are left in Sheol. Does the OT have any sort of view of the afterlife for [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the last post I sketched out how the OT does indeed contain the idea of some sort of afterlife with God beyond and external to Sheol for the righteous. In this post, we&#8217;ll look at the unrighteous who are left in Sheol. Does the OT have any sort of view of the afterlife for the unrighteous that approximates later NT ideas of hell?  The answer is &#8220;it depends&#8221; or &#8220;yes and no.&#8221;</p>
<p>First, since no one escapes the grave (Sheol) unless God raises them, Sheol is conceived of as never ending. The unrighteous who are not raised from Sheol are therefore in a never ending situation.</p>
<p>Second, Sheol for the unrighteous may indeed be a frightening place in Israelite thought depending on one factor: how did Israelites think of the Rephaim in Sheol?</p>
<p>The Rephaim are described as being in Sheol (Job 26:5-6; Prov 9:18) and are conceived of in two ways in the Hebrew Bible:  deceased great kings / rulers of old (e.g., Isa 14:9) and a giant clan (cf. Deut 2:11; 1 Chron 20:4). Outside the Hebrew Bible, the Rephaim are known in Ugaritic literature, but only as olden kings, not giants. For this reason, scholars typically look at the biblical Rephaim descriptions as coming from two divergent traditions. This is certainly possible, but it is also possible that the reason for the two types of descriptions is that the Israelites conceived of the Rephaim both ways, and those two ways are related.  In my view, it is possible to consider the Rephaim as a giant clan who produced notable rulers / kings in Canaan.  I don&#8217;t see a necessary incompatibility.</p>
<p>Given this notion, the Rephaim inhabitants of Sheol represented the ancient ruler-giant clans who were Israel&#8217;s great historica enemies. These enemies are specifically traced back to the Nephilim (compare Deut. 2:11 and Numbers 13:32-33). Adding 1 Chron 20:4 to that mix shows that the Rephaim were considered a giant clan that traced its roots back to the Nephilim.</p>
<p>The Nephilim are important in this equation because Second Temple Jewish texts (&#8220;intertestamental&#8221;) like 1 Enoch trace the origin of demons to the Nephilim. Without going into great detail, when a Nephilim giant was killed, the immaterial spirit of that Nephilim was considered a demon. This is the Second Temple explanation for the origin of demons. The disconnect here, though, is that the shedim of 1 Enoch were sentenced to roam the earth to harass humans. It is not clear they reside in the Abyss, but it does seem they can be there (but are not imprisoned there, like the original offending Watchers (sons of God) of Genesis 6 (they are imprisoned in all the OT, NT and 2nd temple Jewish traditions).</p>
<p>Here is the key point.  It may be that the Rephaim in Sheol were considered demonic as well as great warrior kings of old (six of one, half dozen of another) based on:</p>
<p>Ezekiel 32:21 (very literal): The gibborim (&#8220;mighty chiefs&#8221; in ESV) shall speak of them with their helpers out of the midst of Sheol; They have come down, they lie still, the uncircumcised, slain by the sword. The thing to note here is the term gibborim, which of course shows up in Genesis 6:4 in connection with the nephilim. Granted gibborim does NOT mean &#8220;giant&#8221; in general; the context must point that way. The point here is that gibborim could be viewed as the same as the Rephaim (synonyms) since the description of the gibborim that are in Sheol in Ezek 32 is basically the same as the warrior kings who are the Rephaim in Sheol in other passages. Since the Rephaim in Sheol can still be conceived of as dead giant clan kings, and since those dead Rephaim *may* be conceived as well as the departed spirits of those giants (which would be a parallel to the departed spirits of the nephilim being the demons), we could argue that the OT Sheol includes the idea that demonic spirits are in Sheol. This is not secure, but it is possible.  It would give us some sort of clue as to where later Second Temple and NT writers get some of their theology.</p>
<p>It should be noted that many commentators think the nephilim are in Sheol via Ezekiel 32.  There are often comments or textual notes on Ezek 32:27, where the &#8220;fallen&#8221; (n-p-l-m; nophelim) are in Sheol.  Some argue that the Hebrew there should be repointed as nephilim. I do not believe this is coherent since &#8220;fallen&#8221; (n-p-l-m) occurs in 32:22 where we read the &#8220;fallen&#8221; are &#8220;fallen by the sword.&#8221; It would make no sense to have &#8220;nephilim by the sword.&#8221; The same issue applies to 32:23 and 32:24.</p>
<p>So, what we have is that there is a possibility that an Israelite would have view Sheol with fear, not just because it meant death, but because the unrighteous would be forced to spend the afterlife with Israel&#8217;s ancient enemies, the giant clans of old, who were perhaps also conceived of as demons. This is possible, but not certain.</p>
<p>What about the element of fiery punishment? Well, if the above holds true, that wouldn&#8217;t be viewed as any sort of reward. There is also fire in Sheol according to Prov. 30:16. Job 31:12 *may* suggest there is fire in Sheol (cf. Abaddon in Job 26:6). (See also Psalm 140:8-10).  Granted, we do not have descriptions of sinners being burned in torment, but the essential elements are there. I think it is fair to say that the kernel elements of the fiery hell of the NT and Second Temple Judaism are present in the OT.</p>
<p>My conclusion is that it is incorrect to say that the OT does not have any sort of conept of a &#8220;bad&#8221; afterlife that resembles hell. That is an extreme conclusion that simply refuses to triangulate the range of OT material. It also goes too far to say that the concepts are identical between the testaments. There is a progression of the ideas from the OT to the NT.</p>

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		<title>Sheol: Does the OT Have a Concept of Eternal Bliss or Heaven?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 07:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to be back blogging on the NB. I lost my laptop for a week and posting was spotty. But thanks the Geek Squad at BestBuy, I&#8217;m back in business.</p>
<p>By now you&#8217;ve had plenty of time to read through the file I posted with all the occurrences of Sheol.  You should have noticed that, for the most part, it has a negative feel, either because certain occurrences speak of the grave and people don&#8217;t like to die (!) or it&#8217;s the place the wicked are headed to. But you should also have noticed that, on occasion, the righteous are said to be headed to Sheol (e.g., Jacob: Gen 37:35; 42:38; 44:31). This in fact is what steers many scholars (probably most) to see Sheol as either the grave or some sort of reference to a place &#8220;in the earth&#8221; that everyone goes to. This latter element is, of course, part of the three-tiered cosmology of ancient Israel and other ANE peoples. Sheol is &#8220;bad&#8221; because the wicked are there; Sheol isn&#8217;t &#8220;bad&#8221; because the righteous are there, too.</p>
<p>While it&#8217;s clear that the dead go to the grave/Sheol and therefore reside in Sheol (whatever that is), it seems that the questions of eternal paradise or eternal punishment are not addressed in the OT text. After all, there&#8217;s no real clear passage that speaks of Sheol being anything like heaven, and it&#8217;s never really described like we&#8217;d think of hell.</p>
<p>Well, not so fast on both counts.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s take the &#8220;heaven&#8221; idea first. The notion that the cumulative occurrences of Sheol prove that the OT has no idea of an eternal heaven is misguided. The reason is the assumption that studying the occurrences of Sheol is the right strategy or trajectory for delving into the issue of whether the OT teaches there is a blissful afterlife. It isn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>There are definite hints that there is something beyond Sheol for the righteous. Normally, according to Job 7:9, no one comes up out of Sheol (&#8220;As the cloud fades and vanishes, so he who goes down to Sheol does not come up&#8221;). But the Lord can accomplish this per 1 Samuel 2:6 (&#8220;The Lord kills and brings to life; he brings down to Sheol and raises up&#8221;). &#8220;Raises up&#8221; is a literal translation and the verb here is NOT the one typically used for physical deliverance, and so the idea of coming &#8220;up&#8221; out of Sheol (which was conceived of as under the earth) appears to be in view.  This &#8220;upward&#8221; language is interesting in light of Prov 15:24, where we read: &#8220;The path of life leads upward for the prudent, that he may turn away from Sheol beneath.&#8221; The &#8220;upward&#8221; idea is clearly contrasted with Sheol, which is &#8220;below&#8221; in Israelite cosmology. The text could be read in two ways: that the righteous never go to Sheol, which doesn&#8217;t seem correct in view of other passages, or that the righteous wind up &#8220;up there&#8221; (opposite Sheol) after death at some point (and death = Sheol). The second option is consistent with the idea that everyone goes to Sheol but the righteous don&#8217;t stay there.</p>
<p>This is important since many try to argue that all that is in view is deliverance from physical harm that would bring death (and hence a trip to Sheol). Psalm 30:3 also seems to clearly suggest that the Lord can remove someone from Sheol and raise them out of the place of the dead: &#8220;O Lord, you have brought up my soul from Sheol; you restored me to life from among those who go down to the pit.&#8221; Psalm 49:15 echoes the same thought: &#8220;But God will ransom my soul from the power of Sheol, for he will receive me.&#8221; What&#8217;s interesting about this verse is the idea of being &#8220;received&#8221; by God &#8212; which would make little sense if the point was merely protection from harm in this life. The Hebrew word here for &#8220;receive&#8221; can also mean &#8220;taken,&#8221; and so the idea may also be removal from Sheol.</p>
<p>So, the references to Sheol itself can include the notion of being removed from Sheol, at least for the righteous.  But there is more. Some scholars fail to look outside the passages that have the word Sheol in them, and that omission leads to poor conclusions.</p>
<p>Building on the idea of the righteous escaping from Sheol at the pleasure of the Lord, we read in Psalm 73:</p>
<blockquote><p><span> </span>23 Nevertheless, I am continually with you; you hold my right hand.</p>
<p><span> </span>24 You guide me with your counsel, and afterward you will receive me to glory.</p>
<p><span> </span>25 Whom have I in heaven but you? And there is nothing on earth that I desire besides you.</p>
<p><span> </span>26 My flesh and my heart may fail, but God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever.</p></blockquote>
<p>The language of being &#8220;received to glory&#8221; is noteworthy (it is the same word as in Psalm 49:15). Some would argue that the meaning is that God will honor the person in question, and that &#8220;glory&#8221; does not refer to the presence of God. That position is made more difficult by what follows:  &#8221;Whom have I in the heavens but you?&#8221; Yes, this could be an appeal like &#8220;what other god do I have but you?&#8221; but it&#8217;s obvious that God was thought to dwell in the heavens &#8212; and so that may be where the person in question will be &#8220;received.&#8221; The &#8220;holding of the hand&#8221; deserves some attention, since &#8220;upholding&#8221; is elsewhere associated with the presence of God: &#8220;But you have upheld me because of my integrity, and set me in your presence forever.&#8221;  The notion of the Lord being the &#8220;portion&#8221; of the psalmist &#8220;forever&#8221; is important as well. &#8220;Portion&#8221; is a very important and familiar word to any who have read my work on the divine council. It is the word for &#8220;allotted inheritance.&#8221; That God is perceived to be the inheritance of the righteous psalmist is the flip side of the idea that Yahweh has his own portion (inheritance) which is Israel, his people. The idea is that there is a personal eschatology (being with the Lord forever) with the national eschatology that springs out of the OT worldview of Israel as a divine inheritance.  The &#8220;portion&#8221; language is echoed in Psalm 16:5 (&#8220;The Lord is my chosen portion and cup; you hold my lot&#8221;). Elsewhere in the same psalm (vv. 10-11) the psalmist says: &#8220;For you will not abandon my soul to Sheol, or let your holy one see corruption. You make known to me the path of life; in your presence there is fullness of joy; at your right hand are pleasures forevermore.&#8221;  Clearly the psalmist expected that the righteous to be with the Lord and not remain in Sheol (cf. &#8220;the holy&#8221; &#8212; and the word is not qadesh, the normal word for holy &#8212; it is chasid &#8212; a synonym for the righteous).</p>
<p>In my judgment, and without belaboring the data, a good case can be presented that the OT does indeed teach that the righteous do not remain in Sheol but are with the Lord. Since God was thought to have no end in Israelite theology, any existence with him for the righteous would be eternal.</p>
<p>Next up: Sheol for the unrighteous.</p>

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		<title>Returning to Sheol</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 04:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been getting asked about Sheol and the afterlife a lot recently, so I thought I&#8217;d return briefly to the topic. (I had blogged about this in relation to ghosts in the OT).  Specifically, here is the question:  does the OT contain the idea of either a blissful afterlife or eternal punishment &#8212; as opposed [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been getting asked about Sheol and the afterlife a lot recently, so I thought I&#8217;d return briefly to the topic. (I had blogged about this in relation to ghosts in the OT).  Specifically, here is the question:  does the OT contain the idea of either a blissful afterlife or eternal punishment &#8212; as opposed to just teaching that we go to the grave or &#8220;realm of the dead&#8221; without respect to either &#8220;heaven&#8221; or &#8220;hell&#8221;?  It seems to be a favorite web question aimed at making people think the two testaments of the Bible disagree.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like readers to download <a href="http://www.michaelsheiser.com/TheNakedBible/sheol ESV.pdf" target="_blank">this file</a> for consideration.  It is all the occurrences of the word &#8220;Sheol&#8221; in the OT and the corresponding translation in the ESV. I&#8217;d like you all to tell me what you think &#8212; do you see a blissful afterlife or eternal punishment?</p>
<p>Natrually, there&#8217;s more to the issue than this file, but we need to start here.</p>

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		<title>Jesus as &#8220;Ghost&#8221; and &#8220;Phantom&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 06:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#8217;s another article to file under contextualizing the Bible with respect to its literary conventions. If you&#8217;re like me, you&#8217;ve heard Christian apologists say something like &#8220;the New Testament resurrection stories are like nothing in the ancient world,&#8221; a statement usually made to convince us that the resurrection was a bodily one. Now, I believe [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another article to file under contextualizing the Bible with respect to its literary conventions. If you&#8217;re like me, you&#8217;ve heard Christian apologists say something like &#8220;the New Testament resurrection stories are like nothing in the ancient world,&#8221; a statement usually made to convince us that the resurrection was a bodily one. Now, I believe the resurrection was a bodily resurrection, but statements like these on the part of well meaning pastors or apologists aren&#8217;t really informed.  Below are two recent articles on how Mark and Luke use (or violate) literary conventions known throughout the Greco-Roman world for telling ghost stories when they write about Jesus (pre- or post-resurrection). Be advised: Prince&#8217;s article may disturb readers whose background is pretty much popular apologetics.  But her conclusion makes sense (I have marked some important parts with a red line). Same for the article on Mark, but to a lesser degree (parts marked in red show the payoff for preaching of this literary analysis).</p>
<p>Deborah Thompson Prince, <a href="http://www.michaelsheiser.com/TheNakedBible/GhostLuke24.pdf" target="_blank">The ‘Ghost’ of Jesus: Luke 24 in Light of Ancient Narratives<br />
of Post-Mortem Apparitions</a></p>
<p>Jason Robert Combs, <a href="http://www.michaelsheiser.com/TheNakedBible/MarkGhost.pdf" target="_blank">A Ghost on the Water? Understanding an Absurdity in Mark 6:49–50</a></p>

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		<title>Discerning the Dead, Part 3</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#8217;re at the point now in our intermittent forays into the biblical realm of the dead to flesh out (again, pardon the pun) who&#8217;s who in the Underworld. I noted at the start that I wanted to start with the term metim to see if that term spoke of the human dead, as opposed to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re at the point now in our intermittent forays into the biblical realm of the dead to flesh out (again, pardon the pun) who&#8217;s who in the Underworld. I noted at the start that I wanted to start with the term <em>metim </em>to see if that term spoke of the human dead, as opposed to non-human spirits. More precisely now, I wanted to see if the term was distinct from <em>Ê¾</em><em>Ã´b  / </em><em>Ê¾</em><em>Ã´bot. </em>I think a good case can be made for that, and so now I&#8217;m ready to make a working list of the inhabitants of the Underworld.  I&#8217;ll be bringing in terms I&#8217;ve not discussed thus far, so be prepared for that. Here they are:</p>
<p>1.       The human dead</p>
<ul class="unIndentedList">
<li> This is by far (and perhaps exclusively) the referent of the term <em>metim</em>.</li>
<li> This term, then, would be a term that, in contexts that describe an ongoing afterlife in the Underworld / realm of the dead, would describe a ghost-the spirit of a departed dead person. Term number also describes a human ghost.</li>
</ul>
<p>2.       The dead kings of old / the dead Rephaim</p>
<ul class="unIndentedList">
<li> This category presents a difficulty, and so we&#8217;ll be discussing it further. Rephaim could of course die, so it is no surprise that the word <em>metim </em>is used in connection with them. There are questions to address with respect to the Rephaim: (a) should they be viewed as merely and only human or, since they are also one of the giant clans that descended from the <em>nephilim</em>,<sup class='footnote'><a href='#fn-33-1' id='fnref-33-1'>1</a></sup> should they be viewed as part human and part divine; (b) when one of the Rephaim was killed, should the departed spirit be viewed as a demon? This was the view of 1 Enoch, for example (demons are specifically said to be the departed spirits of the <em>nephilim</em> giants); (c) are there any biblical texts that have the Rephaim not only as the dead warrior kings of old, but as demonic spirits. For sure the Rephaim are among the giant clans descended from the <em>nephilim</em>, but are the dead Rephaim also demons?</li>
</ul>
<p>3.       The offending divine sons of God of Genesis 6 infamy (a.k.a., the &#8220;Watchers&#8221;)</p>
<ul class="unIndentedList">
<li> Jewish tradition is consistent that these beings were imprisoned until the time of the end. Although we are not given this detail in the OT, the NT tells the same story. 2 Peter 2:4 says that &#8220;the angels that sinned&#8221; were cast into &#8220;Tartarus.&#8221; This is precisely the Greek word that Jewish texts (like 1 Enoch in Greek) use to describe the place where the sons of God who sinned in the Genesis 6 story were imprisoned.</li>
</ul>
<p>4.       The spirits who have knowledge (&#8220;the spirits; that is, the knowing ones&#8221;)</p>
<ul class="unIndentedList">
<li> This is terminology frequently used in passages that condemn mediums and their activities.</li>
<li> There is no evidence that this term is used for human dead (see below). These are non-human spirits.</li>
<li> Passages:</li>
</ul>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Deuteronomy 18:9-13 (my translation):</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">9 &#8220;When you come into the land that the LORD your God is giving you, you shall not learn to follow the abominable practices of those nations. 10 There shall not be found among you anyone who passes his son or his daughter through the fire,<em>ï»¿</em> anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens, or makes potions from herbs 11 or a spell binder, or one <strong>who consults a non-human spirit that has knowledge (</strong><em>Å¡Å</em><em>Ê¾</em><em>Ä“l </em><em>Ê¾</em><em>Ã´b yiddÄ•</em><em>Ê¿</em><em>ÅnÃ®</em>),  or who inquires of the human dead (<em>dÅrÄ“Å¡ el-hammÄ“tÄ±Ì‚m</em>), 12 for whoever does these things is an abomination to the LORD. And because of these abominations the LORD your God is driving them out before you. 13 You shall be blameless before the LORD your God, 14 for these nations, which you are about to dispossess, listen to fortune-tellers and to  those who practice divination. But as for you, the LORD your God has not allowed you to do this.</p>
<p><strong>NOTE: </strong>verse 11 distinguishes the spirits who have knowledge from the dead.  I would argue that the these spirits are non-human entities and that the dead are the human dead.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Leviticus 19:31 -<strong> </strong>&#8220;Do not turn to the spirits (<em>Ê¾</em><em>Ã´bÃ´t</em>), to the ones who have knowledge (<em>yiddÄ•</em><em>Ê¿</em><em>ÅnÃ®</em>); do not seek them out, and so make yourselves unclean<strong> </strong>by them: I am Yahweh your God.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Leviticus 20:6 &#8211; &#8220;If a person turns to the spirits (<em>Ê¾</em><em>Ã´bÃ´t</em>), to those who have knowledge (<em>yiddÄ•</em><em>Ê¿</em><em>ÅnÃ®</em>), whoring after them, I will set my face against<strong> </strong>that person and will cut him off from among his people.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Leviticus 20:27 &#8211; &#8220;A man or a woman who is with a spirit (<em>Ê¾</em><em>Ã´b</em>) or one who has knowledge (<em>yiddÄ•</em><em>Ê¿</em><em>ÅnÃ®</em>) shall surely be put to death. They shall be stoned with stones; their blood shall be upon them.&#8221;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Isaiah 29:4 &#8211; And you will be brought low; from the earth you shall speak, and from the dust your speech will be bowed down; your voice shall come from the ground like ï»¿the voice of a spirit ((<em>Ê¾</em><em>Ã´b</em>), and from the dust your speech shall whisper.</p>
<p><strong>NOTE</strong>: Lev 20:27 makes it clear that the <em>Ê¾</em><em>Ã´b  / </em><em>Ê¾</em><em>Ã´bot </em>can possess human beings (the medium), and Isaiah 29:4 has the <em> </em><em>Ê¾</em><em>Ã´bot </em>coming from up out of the ground (i.e., from the Underworld).</p>
<p>5.       &#8220;Ghosts&#8221;</p>
<ul class="unIndentedList">
<li> The word <em>Ê¾</em><em>it</em><em>Ì£</em><em>t</em><em>Ì£</em><em>iÌ‚m</em> is used only once in the Old Testament, Isaiah 19:3. This is the Hebrew equivalent of <em>Ê¾</em><em>etemmu</em> (notice the consonants between the Hebrew and Akkadian term are identical), the most commonly-used term in ancient Mesopotamia (Akkadian) for &#8220;ghost&#8221; as in &#8220;departed spirit of a human being.&#8221;<sup class='footnote'><a href='#fn-33-2' id='fnref-33-2'>2</a></sup> English translations are frequently of poor quality here, so I&#8217;ll give my translation with the Hebrew words of importance-you will recognize them by now:</li>
</ul>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;">Isaiah 19:3 &#8211; &#8220;and the spirit of the Egyptians within them will be emptied out, and I will confoundï»¿ their ï»¿counsel; and they will inquire of the idols and the ghosts (<em>Ê¾</em><em>it</em><em>Ì£</em><em>t</em><em>Ì£</em><em>iÌ‚m</em>), and ï»¿the spirits (<em>Ê¾</em><em>Ã´bÃ´t</em>), the knowing ones (<em>yiddÄ•</em><em>Ê¿</em><em>ÅnÃ®</em>).</p>
<p><strong>NOTE</strong>: The <em>Ê¾</em><em>it</em><em>Ì£</em><em>t</em><em>Ì£</em><em>iÌ‚m </em>are grouped together with other terms for non-human entities in this passage, including idols, which were thought to be inhabited by the god(s).</p>
<p>6.       Demons</p>
<ul class="unIndentedList">
<li> There are a couple words for &#8220;demon&#8221; in the Old Testament (that are found more widely in literature in literature of Israel&#8217;s neighbors, like Mesopotamia):</li>
<li> <em>s</em><em>ÌŒediÌ‚m</em><em> </em>(twice: Deut. 32:17; Psalm 106:37)</li>
<li> <em>liÌ‚liÌ‚t </em>(once: Isaiah 34:14); the term is associated with the night and with winds; usually viewed as a demonic spirit for that reason. Referred to as a demon in Akkadian literature.</li>
</ul>
<p><em> </em></p>
<p>Should &#8220;Rephaim&#8221; be listed as a term for demon?  I&#8217;ll address that possibility in the next installment.  We&#8217;ll also hit on ghost terminology in the New Testament before we wrap this up.</p>
<p><strong>Observation Summary:</strong></p>
<p>1.  I think we can say that there is scriptural warrant for distinguishing ghosts from demons. There are, in point of fact, references to ghosts in the Old Testament and those ghosts are the departed spirits of the human dead, not demons.</p>
<p>2.  It is interesting that, while the OT says mediums can be possessed by non-human spirits (<em>Ê¾</em><em>Ã´bÃ´t</em>; Lev. 20:27), it never says mediums can be possessed by the spirits of human dead. Perhaps this can form the basis of viewing whatever happens at a sÃ©ance (in instances where the medium is &#8220;indwelt&#8221; by the contacted entity) as more likely demonic than true contact with the human dead.</p>
<p>3. Recall from an earlier post that Ecclesiastes 9:5 and Isaiah 8:19 suggest that the departed human dead aren&#8217;t very good sources of information-but the non-human spirits are called &#8220;knowing ones.&#8221; It seems we should be suspicious of knowledge gained from alleged contact with the (human) dead-scripturally speaking, the odds are in favor that the contact was made with non-human spirits.</p>
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<li id='fn-33-1'>Compare Gen. 6:4, Num 13:33; Deut 2:11. <span class='footnotereverse'><a href='#fnref-33-1'>&#8617;</a></span></li>
<li id='fn-33-2'>See the entry for &#8220;ghost,&#8221; &#8220;dead,&#8221; and &#8220;Etemmu&#8221; in <em>Dictionary of Deities and Demons in the Bible</em>. <span class='footnotereverse'><a href='#fnref-33-2'>&#8617;</a></span></li>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the short list of passages (from the last post) we need to consider:</p>
<blockquote><p>Deut 18:11; Deut.  26:14; Deut  28:62; Psa  88:5; Psa  88:10; Psa  106:28; Psa  115:17; Eccl 9:3; Eccl 9:5; Isaiah 8:19; Isaiah 26:14; Isaiah 26:19</p></blockquote>
<p>Continuing on in our efforts to parse the dead (<em>metim</em>) &#8230; I once again offer my working hypothesis:</p>
<blockquote><p>The term &#8220;the dead&#8221; refers to those things that can and do die (they are inherently mortal, having determinate lifespans, and must do certain things [like eat and breathe] to keep existing). The most notable example, of course, is human beings, and so <em>metim </em>most often refers to human beings. The metim, then, are not the spirits (<em>Ê¾ob </em>/ <em>Ê¾obot</em>) that can be conjured. The <em>metim </em>do have some sort of disembodied existence and can be contacted (hence the prohibition), but don&#8217;t seem to be reliable sources of information. This would mean that the <em>Ê¾ob </em>/ <em>Ê¾obot </em>would be non-human spirits.</p></blockquote>
<p>Last time I posted about Deut 18:11; Deut 26:14; and Deut 28:62.Â  Let&#8217;s try and get through more of the list.</p>
<p><strong>Psalm 88:5; Psalm 88:10 -</strong></p>
<p><strong><sup>3</sup></strong> For my soul is full of troubles,</p>
<p>and ï»¿<span style="text-decoration: underline;">my life draws near to ï»¿Sheol</span>.</p>
<p><strong><sup>4</sup></strong> I am counted among those who ï»¿go down to the pit;</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">I am a man</span> who has no strength,</p>
<p><strong><sup>5</sup></strong> like one set loose among <span style="text-decoration: underline;">the dead</span> (<em>metim</em>),</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">like the slain that lie in the grave</span>,</p>
<p>like those whom ï»¿you remember no more,</p>
<p>for they are ï»¿cut off from your hand.</p>
<p><strong><sup>6</sup></strong> You have put me in ï»¿the depths of the pit,</p>
<p>in the ï»¿regions dark and ï»¿deep.</p>
<p><strong><sup>7</sup></strong> Your wrath ï»¿lies heavy upon me,</p>
<p>and you overwhelm me with ï»¿all your waves. <em>Selah</em></p>
<p><strong><sup>8</sup></strong> You have caused ï»¿my companions to shun me;</p>
<p>you have made me ï»¿a horrorï»¿ to them.</p>
<p>I am ï»¿shut in so that I cannot escape;</p>
<p><strong><sup>9</sup></strong> ï»¿my eye grows dim through sorrow.</p>
<p>Every day I call upon you, O Lord;</p>
<p>I ï»¿spread out my hands to you.</p>
<p><strong><sup>10</sup></strong> Do you work wonders for <span style="text-decoration: underline;">the dead</span> (<em>metim</em>)?</p>
<p>ï»¿<span style="text-decoration: underline;">Do the departed (<em>rephaim</em>) rise up to praise you</span>? <em>Selah</em></p>
<p><strong><sup>11</sup></strong> Is your steadfast love declared in the grave,</p>
<p>or your faithfulness in Abaddon?</p>
<p><strong><sup>12</sup></strong> Are your ï»¿wonders known in ï»¿the darkness,</p>
<p>or your righteousness in the land of ï»¿forgetfulness?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s pretty clear that the dead (<em>metim</em>) in 88:5 refers to the human dead. The wider context clearly casts the dead as &#8220;the slain that lie in the grave.&#8221;Â  In 88:10, though, there is an issue: are the dead in 88:10 synonymous with or alongside the <em>rephaim</em>?Â  If the former, the dead may be non-human (or, better, more than human) mortals. Briefly, the <em>rephaim</em> are, most generally, the dead kings or great warriors of antiquity.Â  Sources within and outside the Bible confirm this identification. In the biblical case, however, the <em>rephaim</em> are related (literally) to the giant clans in the Old Testament. These clans are in turn identified as descendants of the nephilim (Gen 6:4), who were offspring of human women and divine beings (the sons of God).<sup class='footnote'><a href='#fn-24-1' id='fnref-24-1'>1</a></sup> There is nothing about the Hebrew that compels the conclusion that the terms are synonymous, and so my working hypothesis is still intact. Even if <em>metim</em> can refer to rephaim, it is clear that the giants of the OT were mortal-they could be killed-and so it wouldn&#8217;t be odd for the term to apply to them as well.Â  Though our topic (differentiating terms for the human dead, ghosts / spirits of the human dead, and non-human Underworld spirits in the biblical worldview) relates to the question of Sheol and the afterlife, I don&#8217;t want to get sidetracked on that.Â  I have another working hypothesis on that (scholars have widely disagreed), so that&#8217;s for another time.</p>
<p><strong>Psalm 106:28</strong> &#8211; Like Deut 28:62 in the previous post, this is a reference to sacrifices for the human dead. In this case, living people are condemned for eating from the animal sacrificed as an offering to the dead.</p>
<p><strong>Psalm 115:16-18</strong></p>
<p><strong><sup>16</sup></strong> The heavens are the Lord&#8217;s heavens,</p>
<p>but the earth he has given to the children of man.</p>
<p><strong><sup>17</sup></strong> <span style="text-decoration: underline;">ï»¿The dead </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;">(<em>metim</em>) </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;">do not praise the Lord</span>,</p>
<p>nor do any who go down into ï»¿silence.</p>
<p><strong><sup>18</sup></strong> But ï»¿we will bless the Lord</p>
<p>from this time forth and forevermore.</p>
<p>ï»¿Praise the Lord!</p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing in this text that would indicate that the dead (<em>metim</em>) are anything but the human dead.</p>
<p><strong>Eccl. 9:3-5</strong></p>
<p><strong><sup>3</sup></strong> This is an evil in all that is done under the sun, that ï»¿the same event happens to all. Also, the hearts of the children of man are full of evil, and ï»¿madness is in their hearts while they live, and after that they go to the dead (<em>metim</em>). <strong><sup>4</sup></strong> But he who is joined with all the living has hope, for a living dog is better than a dead lion. <strong><sup>5</sup></strong> For the living know that they will die, but ï»¿the dead (<em>metim</em>) know nothing, and they have no more reward, for ï»¿the memory of them is forgotten.</p>
<p>The same can be said for these verses-the dead (<em>metim</em>) here appear to be the human dead. This verse is interesting as well in that it says &#8220;the dead know nothing.&#8221; One wonders why they were contacted, and how this verse fits into the prohibition against contacting the dead.Â  We&#8217;ll hit necromancy in a future post on the present topic. In fact, the verses below deal with necromancy.</p>
<p><strong>Isaiah 8:19</strong></p>
<p>And when they say to you, &#8220;Inquire of the ï»¿mediums and the necromancers who chirp and mutter,&#8221; should not a people inquire of their God? Should they inquire of ï»¿the dead (<em>metim</em>) on behalf of the living?</p>
<p>This verse refers to the human dead being contacted. It&#8217;s pretty straightforward.Â  We&#8217;ll see it again when we hit necromancy.</p>
<p><strong>Isaiah 26:13-19</strong></p>
<p><strong><sup>13</sup></strong> O Lord our God,</p>
<p>ï»¿<span style="text-decoration: underline;">other lords besides you have ruled over us</span>,</p>
<p>ï»¿but your name alone we bring to remembrance.</p>
<p><strong><sup>14</sup></strong> <span style="text-decoration: underline;">They are dead </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;">(<em>metim</em>)</span><span style="text-decoration: underline;">,</span> they will not live;</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">they are shades (<em>rephaim</em>)</span>, they will not arise;</p>
<p>to that end you have visited them with destruction</p>
<p>and wiped out all remembrance of them.</p>
<p><strong><sup>15</sup></strong> ï»¿But you have increased the nation, O Lord,</p>
<p>you have increased the nation; you are glorified;</p>
<p>ï»¿you have enlarged all the borders of the land.</p>
<p><strong><sup>16</sup></strong> O Lord, ï»¿in distress they sought you;</p>
<p>they poured out a whispered prayer</p>
<p>when your discipline was upon them.</p>
<p><strong><sup>17</sup></strong> ï»¿Like a pregnant woman</p>
<p>who writhes and cries out in her pangs</p>
<p>when she is near to giving birth,</p>
<p>so were we because of you, O Lord;</p>
<p><strong><sup>18</sup></strong> ï»¿we were pregnant, we writhed,</p>
<p>but we have given birth to wind.</p>
<p>We have accomplished no deliverance in the earth,</p>
<p>and the inhabitants of the world have not fallen.</p>
<p><strong><sup>19</sup></strong> ï»¿<span style="text-decoration: underline;">Your dead </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;">(<em>metim</em>) </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;">shall live; their bodies shall rise</span>.</p>
<p>You who dwell in the dust, awake and sing for joy!</p>
<p>For ï»¿your dew is a dew of light,</p>
<p>and <span style="text-decoration: underline;">the earth will give birth to the dead (<em>rephaim</em>).</span></p>
<p>This passage again takes us into the question of whether the term (<em>metim</em>) can refer to <em>rephaim</em> and not only the human dead. In Isaiah 26:14 it appears that the <em>metim</em> and the <em>rephaim</em> are identified with each other. This isn&#8217;t certain, but it looks that way, since both &#8220;they&#8217;s&#8221; in v. 14 likely refer back to v. 13-the other lords that ruled over Israel.Â  This may refer to kings of old (and perhaps of giant clan lineage) that ruled over Israel but which were killed off.</p>
<p>I would argue, though, that in Isaiah 26:19 the dead are humans-specifically, human followers of Yahweh (&#8220;YOUR dead&#8221;-speaking of Yahweh).Â  These believers will rise / be resurrected.Â  In contrast the earth (the <em>Ê¾erets</em> in Hebrew) will ABORT the <em>rephaim</em>.Â  The word <em>Ê¾erets </em>is the normal word for &#8220;earth&#8221; or &#8220;land,&#8221; but it is also a synonym for Sheol. The verb here is naphal. In the Hiphil stem in means to &#8220;drop&#8221; and is used elsewhere as a euphemism for miscarriage or abortion.Â  This passage is in what is known to scholars as Isaiah&#8217;s &#8220;little apocalypse&#8221; (Isaiah 24-27). I take it as a reference to events associated with the Day of the Lord, when the evil spirits will be expelled or released from the Pit before their final defeat (cf. Revelation 9).</p>
<p>In the next post, I&#8217;ll take this material and (pardon the pun) flesh out a taxonomy (so far) of the Underworld.</p>
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<li id='fn-24-1'>Yes, I know there are other views of Gen 6:1-4, namely that the sons of God are the sons of Seth and that the nephilim are possessed human kings. These views have glaring weaknesses that I&#8217;ve written about at length. If you want to see these views go up in flames, subscribe to my newsletter archive at <a href="http://www.michaelsheiser.com/">www.michaelsheiser.com</a> and read the pertinent chapters in the draft of the book I&#8217;m working on that is accessible &#8220;as is&#8221; on the archive page. I won&#8217;t be responding to comments on this blog telling me how the giant view is wrong, since that would be re-inventing the wheel. <span class='footnotereverse'><a href='#fnref-24-1'>&#8617;</a></span></li>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to start going through the passages from the last post that I pulled out for examination from the list of occurrences in the OT for &#8220;the dead&#8221; (<em>metim</em>).Â  Recall my working hypothesis:</p>
<blockquote><p>The term &#8220;the dead&#8221; refers to those things that can and do die (they are inherently mortal, having determinate lifespans, and must do certain things [like eat and breathe] to keep existing). The most notable example, of course, is human beings, and so <em>metim </em>most often refers to human beings. The metim, then, are not the spirits (<em>&#8216;ob </em>/ <em>&#8216;obot</em>) that can be conjured.  The <em>metim </em>do have some sort of disembodied existence and can be contacted (hence the prohibition), but don&#8217;t seem to be reliable sources of information. This would mean that the <em>&#8216;ob </em>/ <em>&#8216;obot </em>would be non-human spirits.</p>
<p>Here goes.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Deut 18:11</strong> &#8211; (more literally / my translation): &#8220;or a spellbinder, or ï»¿one who asks a spirit (<em>Ê¾ob</em>) who has knowledge (<em>yiddeoni</em>), or ï»¿one who inquires of the dead (<em>metim</em>)&#8221;</p>
<blockquote><p>Deuteronomy 18 is a well-known passage that deals with certain forbidden divination practices. Notice here that there is an apparent difference between asking a <strong>spirit </strong>(<em>Ê¾ob</em>) for information and inquiring of the <strong>dead </strong>(<em>metim</em>). That is, the spirits being contacted and the dead being solicited seem to be different groups.  The spirits have certain knowledge of the &#8220;other side&#8221; that human mediums would seek to tap into. We are not given this detail about the dead, which would be consistent with the passages below in Ecclesiastes.Â  I don&#8217;t see anything in this passage that mars my hypothesis.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Deut. 26:14</strong> (ESV): ï»¿&#8221;I have not eaten of the tithe while I was mourning, or removed any of it while I was unclean, or offered any of it ï»¿to the dead (<em>metim</em>). I have obeyed the voice of the Lord my God. I have done according to all that you have commanded me.&#8221;</p>
<blockquote><p>This passage is consistent with my hypothesis. It would be incorrect to see &#8220;the dead&#8221; here as non-human spirits or demons, since there is a good deal of archaeological evidence for a &#8220;cult&#8221; of the dead in biblical Israel.  There are traces of this in the Old Testament.  We may get to that in detail, but for now I&#8217;ll only say that what scholars mean by &#8220;cult&#8221; of the dead is that Israelites, like basically all people, did certain things to honor or &#8220;service&#8221; the dead and maintain some sort of connection to them.  Before we dismiss this, we ought to admit that we do the same thing, even in our scientific age.  For example, we take flowers to the grave of loved ones, perhaps even on specific days. Why? Perhaps we imagine the deceased would appreciate the gesture, or perhaps we think it scandalous if a grave goes unattended (it&#8217;s disrespectful to the deceased). Do the dead really appreciate flowers? Do they keep track of how they are respected once they&#8217;re dead? Will they get upset with us if we bring the wrong thing or don&#8217;t bring anything at all? I think you get the picture.  Israelites would leave food and wine at graves, at times even pouring or dumping the items into a grave through a hole designed for such purpose. But enough&#8230;I don&#8217;t want to get sidetracked.  My point is that the <em>metim </em>in this verse are still the human dead. Incidentally, two excellent scholarly books on this subject matter are: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1575060086?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=michsheiscom-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1575060086">Israel&#8217;s Beneficent Dead: Ancestor Cult and Necromancy in Ancient Israelite Religion and Tradition</a><img style="border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=michsheiscom-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1575060086" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" /> and <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1850753350?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=michsheiscom-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1850753350">Judahite Burial Practices and Beliefs About the Dead (Jsots Series No 123)</a><img style="border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=michsheiscom-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1850753350" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" />.</p></blockquote>
<p>Deut. 28:64 &#8211; Excluded from the discussion. I marked this because of the odd translation in the original PDF file. Now I know why it was translated &#8220;few&#8221;-because this is a different &#8220;<em>metim</em>&#8220;.  Like English, Hebrew has homographs-words that are spelled exactly the same way but which have divergent meanings.  In English, for example, we have examples like &#8220;run&#8221; (verb) and &#8220;run&#8221; (noun &#8211; as in a &#8220;run&#8221; in your pantyhose or a &#8220;run&#8221; in baseball); &#8220;chuck&#8221; (a slang verb for &#8220;throw&#8221;) and &#8220;chuck&#8221;) the key used to tighten a drill. There are MANY such examples.  In this case, the metim used here is a word for warrior or fighting men, so it&#8217;s excluded from our discussion.</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As some of you, no doubt, I&#8217;ve had time to go through the PDF file of the occurrences of (Hebrew) <em>met </em>and <em>metim </em>(&#8220;the dead&#8221;).  You no doubt noticed that the overwhelming majority of these instances are pretty straightforward and refer to dead human beings&#8211;victims of war, old age, disease, etc.  But I want to draw your attention to one seemingly meaningless observation: this term is also used for non-human life that dies, such as animals (see Exod. 21:34-36; Eccl. 9:4). So what? I expect you&#8217;ll say.  The point is that <em>met / metim </em>refers to living things that have a determinate lifespan and die.  That is, it refers to what happens to life forms that CAN die, and do.  That in and of itself distinguishes the term from spirit beings&#8211;beings who, as far as the Bible tells us, have contingent immortality&#8211;the only contingency being that they exist at God&#8217;s discretion (he can terminate their existence when he wishes as the sole possessor of eternal existence).  This obvious but important observation will come in handy down the road a bit.</p>
<p>Toward next time, here are the following passages from the PDF file that will need some examination on our journey to discover who&#8217;s who (or what&#8217;s what) in the Underworld:</p>
<blockquote><p>Deut 18:11; Deut. 26:14; Deut 28:62; Psa 88:5; Psa 88:10; Psa 106:28; Psa 115:17; Eccl 9:3; Eccl 9:5; Isaiah 8:19; Isaiah 26:14; Isaiah 26:19</p></blockquote>
<p>Have a look at these passages; we&#8217;ll pick up with them soon.</p>

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