Romans 5:12

Here is the series of posts on Romans 5:12. I do not take the traditional view — that the verse is about the transmission of Adamic guilt. I think it is inserted into the text. However, all humans are sinners (presuming they are allowed to live) and in need of Christ for salvation (i.e., salvation is only through Christ and is not merited in any way). For my reasons and what I think, see the list.

1. Romans 5:12 – What it Says and What it Doesn’t Say Part 1

2. Romans 5:12 – What It Says and What It Doesn’t Say, Part 2

3. More on Romans 5:12 (Part 3)

4. Romans 5:12, Part 4

5. Romans 5:12, Part 5: A Few More Replies to Replies

6. Back to Romans 5:12 – Replies to Reader Comments

7. Some Brief Thoughts on the “Sin Nature” and Reader Follow-Up

8. Romans 5:12 and the Fate of the Unborn, Infants, and Other Human Beings Who Cannot Believe From Birth

9. A Brief Note on Contextualizing the Bible (Especially OT)

10. Adam’s Sin and Old Testament Theology

11. Paul, Original Sin, and Rabbinic Theology

12. A Side Note on “Corporate Solidarity

13. Romans 5:12 and Universalism: Applying My Take on Romans 5:12 to the Problem

16 Responses to “Romans 5:12”

  1. i love GOD,i hate religion,so i came out of it. i still want to know the truth. can you help me?

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  4. Earl says:

    I am interested in what you have to say about Rom 5:12 but a lot of your info seems to be missing. Point 2 What It Says and What It Doesn’t Say, Part 2 seems to be incomplete and Points 2 through 6 seem to be missing completely. Am I doing something wrong or is there another way to access this? Thanks

  5. Earl says:

    I meant Point 1 seems to be incomplete and Point 2 through 6 seem to be missing.

  6. Earl says:

    Yes here is point 1.

    Romans 5:12 What it Says and What it Doesnt Say (Part 1)
    Posted By MSH on April 6, 2009
    Okay, I cant contain myself any longer. Along with the canon posts, which Ill continue, I have to start in on Romans 5:12. This verse is on my short list of most abused and misunderstood texts in the Bible. Im going to start with an egregious abuse of it, and then move to problems traditional interpretations of it create for biblical theology, whether mainline denominations realize it or not (frankly, the views are so entrenched by centuries of repetition that Christian theologians have simply invented answers to the problems that also cannot be legitimized in the text). Romans 5:12 is an excellent example of whether we are going to get our theology from the text or import it into the text.
    Lets start with the verse (in a couple English versions and in Greek):

    There is nothing to copy in points 2-5 as there is just the title header and no text following it (I.E. the post is completely blank except for the header). Thanks for your time as I know you are busy.

    • MSH says:

      thanks – I’ll try to figure that out and make corrections if possible (I’m hoping I haven’t lost any text permanently).

      • Ryan says:

        Dr. Heiser,

        I read your posts on this a few months ago and was fascinated. I wanted to re-read it but it appears the same issue Earl was experiencing is back. His description of the missing content is identical to what I am experiencing. Is it gone for good?

  7. Mark Renton says:

    Mike ,I just heard you interviewed on “Perspective Underground” .I enjoyed your comments.Mark Renton

  8. Ryan says:

    Point 1 on Rom. 5:12 appears incomplete and Points 2-6 are missing. It is exactly the same problem Earl describes in the 7-8 Aug. 2012 posts above mine on the webpage.

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