I wanted to share some thoughts on the most recent Partridge article I posted. Basically, I want to make sure you all caught some of his more important ideas, and to share some thoughts of my own with respect to those ideas.
First, Partridge lays out his thesis very clearly on the first page of the PDF:
“…[B]ecause UFO religions have their roots in the Theosophical tradition, the religious understanding of the extraterrestrial tended to be fundamentally indebted to the concept of the wise and benevolent ascended master. The aim of this article is to examine the technological angel’s foil. The central thesis is that, in their construction of the malevolent alien, UFO religionists and abductees turn not to Theosophy and Eastern religious traditions but to the myths and symbols of Christian demonology.”
I hope you caught his drift. In some early posts on this blog (those detailing “Balducci’s Conundrum”), I pointed out Partridge’s work on identifying clear parallels between the beliefs of those who embrace presumed ETs as “ascended masters” with theosophical/ Eastern occult/religious traditions. Partridge echoes that same conclusion here: those whose view of ET as some sort of transcendent enlightened being tend to be intellectually rooted in theosophical thinking. But here’s the follow-up: that means these same people do NOT have the teachings of Christianity as their guiding intellectual framework. By putting forth the thesis that those who view ETs as malevolent are intellectually rooted in Christian theological conceptions of demons, he is arguing that theology is at the heart of the disagreement over what or who ET is. The transcendent ET vs. the malevolent ET is an intellectual parallel to Theosophy/Eastern religious ideas vs. Christianity. Partridge aims to prove this by arguing that there is no “malevolent being” tradition in Theosophy / Eastern religion that provides an explanation for how that view arose-and so the only viable explanation is the Christian notion of the demonic. This raises two questions: (1) Has anyone else out there, aside from those whose worldview framework is based on Christianity, been calling the ETs of pop culture and “fringe” experience demons? Does anyone else besides Christians think this way about ETs? Partridge would seem to be saying “No.” (2) ”Without Christianity, would anyone have viewed ET as evil?” If there had been no Christian framework in operation to comment on the experiences of those who say they have been abducted, for example, would anyone have viewed ET as malevolent?
Bottom line: is the “malevolent ET” view uniquely Christian? What think ye? How would you rebut Partridge’s thesis (or affirm it)?
The term ET means, for all practical purposes, unidentified entities that seem to be manifesting in multi-dimensional fashions with clearly deceptive tendencies. J. Vallee and other non-Christian researchers see these beings as demon-like.
Moreover, encounters with these types are historical and cross-cultural. The middle-eastern Jin come to mind as just one non Christian example.
ET should properly mean biologicals who inhabit interstellar solar systems, but this formal definition as been overshadowed by the very terrestrial phenomena which crosses cultural and historical lines and has more in common with the demonic.
The spin that these entities are from space is largely seeing this historical demonic phenomena via the distorted lens of Science Fiction, a literary form that increasingly shapes the modern perception since the mid 1800′s.
Refer to my article:
A Scientific Fiction: A Distorted View of the UFO Phenomena
@DryWind: Thanks for this; I will have a look at the link.
@DryWind: The third paragraph is what I always say during my own presentations at various UFO venues. I think it is coherent and needs to be disproved by other views, but it is rarely addressed. That said, biblical theology (namely, a dualistic worldview distinction of lone uncreated Creator vs. everything else being made of something; and this is NOT the same as the dualism that deals with good vs. evil) does in fact allow “other dimensional” beings to exist that are not demonic. This is also rarely addressed, especially from the Christian side, which regularly fails to think through its important (vital, really) dualistic view of creation.
MSH -
I do agree we need to keep an open mind on this phenomena. I would not discount the possibility of pure spacefaring biologicals. That being said, I personally see more evidence than not that the current phenomena is highly dimensional and theatrical in nature – the M.O. of the fallen realm:
Some examples
- UFOs are seen to eject or dissovle into Molten Metal (suggesting terrestrial elements are used and discarded in forming the craft manifestation).
-UFOs frequently alter shapes in mid-flight
-UFOs historically change their appearance to match the technological expectations of the time
-UFOs can have a close resemblance to science fiction craft
-UFO shapes often mimic the sacred symbolic shapes seen in early Christian art (leading some to erroneously assume there are UFOs in sacred art)
@DryWind: agreed – this is where the evidence leads right now.
In relation to others, outside the Christian Community, calling ET’s “demons”, Jaque Vilee is about as a-religious as you find. AND as knowledgeable as any. He’s clearly determined that the entities that we refer to as “ET” are EXTRA-DIMENSIONAL, or ED’s.
But, I see this investigation & exploration as immensely pertinent, & timely, in leu of the direction Scientific research is headed.
Also, Scripture clearly depicts a world, (towards the end of it’s human/Helel rein), that is completely polarized between Christian and anti-christian belief systems. So, it is not inconceivable that this issue is simply an outcropping of that polarization.
Also, close examination of Revelation and Daniel reveals entities being “honored”,[Dan.11:38{mauzzim}] and “released”, which CLEARLY are malevolent,[Rev.9:2-6 & 14-18]; while, at the same time, entities which are CLEARLY extra-dimensional,[ED's], but NOT malevolent are present,[Rev.1:20; 7:13-14], thus establishing BOTH factors as existent in both dimensional realities, (and THAT is totally aside from Helel, the one time “vice-regent”, who has “fallen” into deluded evil).
Also, supporting your point that “UFO’s…often mimic sacred symbolic shapes…”, Rev.16:13 depicts “spirits”, {essentially ED’s}, going fort to do “miracles”,{‘signs & wonders’?}, to “gather” the “..kings of the earth, & of the whole World…”. Clearly, Rev.19:19-21 reveal that these “spirits” deceived those kings. Misrepresentation is demonic SOP.