Comments on: Aliens, Abductions, and the Jinn http://michaelsheiser.com/UFOReligions/2009/12/aliens-abductions-and-the-jinn/ Tue, 22 May 2012 03:30:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: MSH http://michaelsheiser.com/UFOReligions/2009/12/aliens-abductions-and-the-jinn/comment-page-1/#comment-1736 MSH Thu, 16 Feb 2012 23:24:55 +0000 http://michaelsheiser.com/UFOReligions/?p=333#comment-1736 Jinn are not said to come from other planets; if there are aliens (that are the produce of evolution, for sake of discussion), then those aliens would have determinate life spans, need nourishment to sustain their lives, have to reproduce to perpetuate their species, etc. The Jinn are not categorized those ways. (Neither are angels and demons for that matter). Jinn are not said to come from other planets; if there are aliens (that are the produce of evolution, for sake of discussion), then those aliens would have determinate life spans, need nourishment to sustain their lives, have to reproduce to perpetuate their species, etc. The Jinn are not categorized those ways. (Neither are angels and demons for that matter).

]]> By: raseem http://michaelsheiser.com/UFOReligions/2009/12/aliens-abductions-and-the-jinn/comment-page-1/#comment-1733 raseem Thu, 16 Feb 2012 09:05:14 +0000 http://michaelsheiser.com/UFOReligions/?p=333#comment-1733 what is the difference between jinn and aliens? what is the difference between jinn and aliens?

]]> By: id http://michaelsheiser.com/UFOReligions/2009/12/aliens-abductions-and-the-jinn/comment-page-1/#comment-1397 id Sat, 21 May 2011 14:13:48 +0000 http://michaelsheiser.com/UFOReligions/?p=333#comment-1397 whAT IS THE view of islam and violence see buhari http://bit.ly/mu0qb4 whAT IS THE view of islam and violence see buhari
http://bit.ly/mu0qb4

]]> By: id http://michaelsheiser.com/UFOReligions/2009/12/aliens-abductions-and-the-jinn/comment-page-1/#comment-1396 id Sat, 21 May 2011 14:12:21 +0000 http://michaelsheiser.com/UFOReligions/?p=333#comment-1396 djinn the sunset of daemon. see http://bit.ly/mu0qb4 djinn the sunset of daemon. see http://bit.ly/mu0qb4

]]> By: MSH http://michaelsheiser.com/UFOReligions/2009/12/aliens-abductions-and-the-jinn/comment-page-1/#comment-1249 MSH Mon, 03 Jan 2011 22:53:21 +0000 http://michaelsheiser.com/UFOReligions/?p=333#comment-1249 you'll have to explain what you mean by his jinn "becoming Muslim." I think I know what you mean but I want to make sure. you’ll have to explain what you mean by his jinn “becoming Muslim.” I think I know what you mean but I want to make sure.

]]> By: Mohammed Arshad Ansari http://michaelsheiser.com/UFOReligions/2009/12/aliens-abductions-and-the-jinn/comment-page-1/#comment-1247 Mohammed Arshad Ansari Sun, 02 Jan 2011 17:52:55 +0000 http://michaelsheiser.com/UFOReligions/?p=333#comment-1247 Hello MSH, I've read the book 'The Facade' and enjoyed it a lot. It did work to help me understand a few things that were missing. However, I read the above posts and you had some questions, which I'm trying to answer. QN1) If his jinn became Muslim, did Mohammed carry out evil orders before his jinn became Muslim? What about ordinary Muslims? This is the greatest example of distorting the concept presented. The angel that follows every human being around is 'The good side or conscience' of a person that speaks the good. Similarly, the Jinns that are associated with people are merely whisperers. 'The devil companion of a person. The one that whispers the bad things'. Now, it's up to a person to choose who he/she listens to. Now, if Muhammed SAWS says that the one who is with him has become a muslim, then it simply means, that he has accepted Islam out of his own free will. To believe that there is only One God and that the message brought by Muhammed SAWS is in truth. Now, debating the truth in message of Islam is topic for another discussion. But, based on the respect it gives christ, I don't think that the message has any problems inherent to it. Hello MSH,
I’ve read the book ‘The Facade’ and enjoyed it a lot. It did work to help me understand a few things that were missing. However, I read the above posts and you had some questions, which I’m trying to answer.
QN1) If his jinn became Muslim, did Mohammed carry out evil orders before his jinn became Muslim? What about ordinary Muslims?

This is the greatest example of distorting the concept presented. The angel that follows every human being around is ‘The good side or conscience’ of a person that speaks the good. Similarly, the Jinns that are associated with people are merely whisperers. ‘The devil companion of a person. The one that whispers the bad things’. Now, it’s up to a person to choose who he/she listens to. Now, if Muhammed SAWS says that the one who is with him has become a muslim, then it simply means, that he has accepted Islam out of his own free will. To believe that there is only One God and that the message brought by Muhammed SAWS is in truth.
Now, debating the truth in message of Islam is topic for another discussion. But, based on the respect it gives christ, I don’t think that the message has any problems inherent to it.

]]> By: MSH http://michaelsheiser.com/UFOReligions/2009/12/aliens-abductions-and-the-jinn/comment-page-1/#comment-1153 MSH Wed, 20 Oct 2010 03:53:07 +0000 http://michaelsheiser.com/UFOReligions/?p=333#comment-1153 I don't have any misconception here; it's a basic post in lay terms. You should know "daemon" is the most generic of terms; the djinn are higher, a subset of daemon (mixing languages here), not the equivalent of daemon. I don’t have any misconception here; it’s a basic post in lay terms. You should know “daemon” is the most generic of terms; the djinn are higher, a subset of daemon (mixing languages here), not the equivalent of daemon.

]]> By: Dery http://michaelsheiser.com/UFOReligions/2009/12/aliens-abductions-and-the-jinn/comment-page-1/#comment-1150 Dery Wed, 20 Oct 2010 01:20:27 +0000 http://michaelsheiser.com/UFOReligions/?p=333#comment-1150 A Jinn (Genie) in Islam is equivalent to a daemon as those controlled by the Prophet Solomon (Suleiman) and are beings created of smokeless fire with free will just as humans are created of clay with free will - contrastingly, angels are beings of light and have no free will to disobey. Satan (Iblis / Diablos / Devil) is the father of all Jinn as Adam is the father of all humans. As for your fallen angel misconception - the Jinn, created before Mankind, are said to have once been a tribe of angels (Al-Tobary) - the only tribe to have free will as they were not created from light but a smokeless fire - and so could disobey. A Jinn (Genie) in Islam is equivalent to a daemon as those controlled by the Prophet Solomon (Suleiman) and are beings created of smokeless fire with free will just as humans are created of clay with free will – contrastingly, angels are beings of light and have no free will to disobey. Satan (Iblis / Diablos / Devil) is the father of all Jinn as Adam is the father of all humans. As for your fallen angel misconception – the Jinn, created before Mankind, are said to have once been a tribe of angels (Al-Tobary) – the only tribe to have free will as they were not created from light but a smokeless fire – and so could disobey.

]]> By: UFO Religions » Extraterrestrials in the Quran, Part 2 http://michaelsheiser.com/UFOReligions/2009/12/aliens-abductions-and-the-jinn/comment-page-1/#comment-961 UFO Religions » Extraterrestrials in the Quran, Part 2 Thu, 18 Mar 2010 03:29:46 +0000 http://michaelsheiser.com/UFOReligions/?p=333#comment-961 [...] of how the Quran might justify or accommodate an ET reality that is more detailed than one I posted earlier.  Click on this link and scroll down a bit.  This one isn’t focused on the [...] [...] of how the Quran might justify or accommodate an ET reality that is more detailed than one I posted earlier.  Click on this link and scroll down a bit.  This one isn’t focused on the [...]

]]> By: Annette T. http://michaelsheiser.com/UFOReligions/2009/12/aliens-abductions-and-the-jinn/comment-page-1/#comment-918 Annette T. Fri, 08 Jan 2010 06:31:00 +0000 http://michaelsheiser.com/UFOReligions/?p=333#comment-918 The Jinn are also known as Genies in folklore and like to play tricks on people. Reminds me of the work of Jacque Vallee. The Jinn are also known as Genies in folklore and like to play tricks on people. Reminds me of the work of Jacque Vallee.

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